subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
While we may differ on individual selections in the respective countries' ATG ODI XIs, what would be your order of teams from strongest to weakest based on their mainstay players?
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Which is the greatest country ATG ODI XI?
- Thread starter subshakerz
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HouHsiaoHsien
International Debutant
Aus and WI first probably. Then Ind? Pak, RSA?
Pap Finn Keighl
International Debutant
00s Australian team > AT 11s of most other countries
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
Let's see.....
Australia:
Warner
Gilchrist
Ponting
Jones
Symmonds
Bevan
Maxwell
Lee
Starc
Warne
McGrath
India:
Tendulkar
Rohit
Kohli
Azhar
Yuvraj
Dhoni
Dev
Jadeja
Kumble
Shami
Bumrah
South Africa:
Gibbs
Amla
Kallis
De Villiers
Cronje
Miller
Klusner
Pollock
Tahir
Fannie
Donald
Pakistan:
Anwar
Rizwan
Abbas
Miandad
Inzamam
Imran
Afridi
Akram
Saqlain
Akhtar
Waqar
West Indies:
Greenidge
Gayle
Richards
Lara
Sobers
Hooper
Hope
Marshall
Ambrose
Holding
Garner
Sri Lanka:
Jayasuriya
Jayawardene
Sangakkara
De Silva
Ranatunga
Mathews
Perera
Vaas
Herath
Malinga
Muralitharan
New Zealand:
McCullum
Astle
Williamson
Crowe
Taylor
Cairns
Harris
Vettori
Hadlee
Boult
Bond
England:
Bell
Bairstow
Root
Pietersen
Stokes
Buttler
Botham
Flintoff
Swann
Gough
Willis
Zimbabwe:
Johnson
Flower
Houghton
Taylor
Williams
Raza
Fletcher
Curran
Strang
Streak
Olonga
Bangladesh:
Iqbal
Das
Sarkar
Shakib
Sabbir
Rahim
Mahmudullah
Mehedy
Mortaza
Rahman
Taskin
Afghanistan:
Gurbaz
Shahzad
Rahmat
Shahidi
Nabi
Omarzai
Afghan
Rashid
Dawlat
Mujeeb
Mirwais
Ireland:
Sterling
Niall
Balbernie
Tector
Joyce
Kevin
Mooney
Dockrell
McBrine
Rankin
Johnston
Australia:
Warner
Gilchrist
Ponting
Jones
Symmonds
Bevan
Maxwell
Lee
Starc
Warne
McGrath
India:
Tendulkar
Rohit
Kohli
Azhar
Yuvraj
Dhoni
Dev
Jadeja
Kumble
Shami
Bumrah
South Africa:
Gibbs
Amla
Kallis
De Villiers
Cronje
Miller
Klusner
Pollock
Tahir
Fannie
Donald
Pakistan:
Anwar
Rizwan
Abbas
Miandad
Inzamam
Imran
Afridi
Akram
Saqlain
Akhtar
Waqar
West Indies:
Greenidge
Gayle
Richards
Lara
Sobers
Hooper
Hope
Marshall
Ambrose
Holding
Garner
Sri Lanka:
Jayasuriya
Jayawardene
Sangakkara
De Silva
Ranatunga
Mathews
Perera
Vaas
Herath
Malinga
Muralitharan
New Zealand:
McCullum
Astle
Williamson
Crowe
Taylor
Cairns
Harris
Vettori
Hadlee
Boult
Bond
England:
Bell
Bairstow
Root
Pietersen
Stokes
Buttler
Botham
Flintoff
Swann
Gough
Willis
Zimbabwe:
Johnson
Flower
Houghton
Taylor
Williams
Raza
Fletcher
Curran
Strang
Streak
Olonga
Bangladesh:
Iqbal
Das
Sarkar
Shakib
Sabbir
Rahim
Mahmudullah
Mehedy
Mortaza
Rahman
Taskin
Afghanistan:
Gurbaz
Shahzad
Rahmat
Shahidi
Nabi
Omarzai
Afghan
Rashid
Dawlat
Mujeeb
Mirwais
Ireland:
Sterling
Niall
Balbernie
Tector
Joyce
Kevin
Mooney
Dockrell
McBrine
Rankin
Johnston
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
I think I was talking about those who played ODIs so i dont see why Sobers is there.
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
Like Australia 2003, South Africa 1992 and India 2011?
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
Sobers has played in an ODI.... If Barry Richards qualifies in South Africa All Time Test teams based on 4 Tests, then so does Sobers based on his ODI.
Slifer
International Captain
Roberts over Marshall in the WI xi and Lloyd or Sarwan or Chanders over Sobers. Still Australia is number one. Obviously not to the same extent as in tests but it's obviously Australia.
Coronis
International Coach
He shouldn’t. But tbf, SA is a BIT of a special case with Apartheid ban.
I am far from an ODI expert but I heard that Babar guy is really good in them, despite not quite fulfilling his test potential.
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
I know Babar is really good in bilaterals and such, but he has been really unsuccessful in World Cups. Untill he performs good in one, I can't place him higher than Zaheer Abbas, Javed Miandad, Inzamam Ul Haq and Saeed Anwar.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
He was pretty good in WC 2019.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
They didn't have careers to judge on.
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
Yeah you're right. I am being too harsh on Babar, I had much bigger expectations of him. But really, I can't keep him ahead of Zaheer Abbas and Saeed Anwar in ODIs, especially Abbas. Anwar gets a pass for being a better fitting opener, Miandad is the anchor needed at 4 and Inzamam is much more suited than Babar at 5....
Yeah, but the rule is a hypothetical team most suited to win, and the criteria is to have played an ODI. Sobers has done that, and I can't help but see Sobers as a huge asset to the side with his World Class versatile batting, bowling and fielding.
Dendarii
International Debutant
I don't think whatever stance you take on whether Richards and Procter should be in a South African team is wrong as there's a case to be made for including or excluding them. But both did perform in the tests they played, so there's at least some international performance to go on, unlike Sobers' solitary ODI.
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
Runs scored in 4 matches isn't really much to go on.... Barry's FC record definitely helps in his selection. So the Sobers pick would had been justified with a 100? I think Sobers is a great fit in the team with his versatility, and his Test record helps his case for me.
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Australia
WI
South Africa/Pakistan
India
NZ
Sri Lanka
England
Zimbabwe
Bangladesh
WI
South Africa/Pakistan
India
NZ
Sri Lanka
England
Zimbabwe
Bangladesh
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