What will Pat Cummins’ legacy be?

[Flem274*]

Qlder reminding me I forgot to add bonus points for Cumdawg being a climate warrior.

Seriously, can't underestimate how important it is to have the dangerously good looking superstars putting the boot in. It's easy for the powers that be to ignore policy and science nerds out of the public eye. Less so when the captain of Australia puts the boot in on telly.

Cummins > McGrath, Marshall and Hadlee combined.

 

[Line and Length]

The greatest fast bowler to overcome huge injury setbacks

Along with Dennis Lillee.

 

[Daemon]

The BAU picking up wickets at home doesn’t really move the needle for me much anymore, but his performance in Pakistan was massive and moves him into top 10 (15 worst case) for me.

 

[Socerer 01]

I thought it was obvious. Captain Woke costing his team $30 million in sponsorship because as Australian cricket captain he refused to do ads for the sponsor paying the $30 million....what am I missing?

you were serious with this **** all along???

 

[TheJediBrah]

you were serious with this **** all along???

You're not familiar with the state of Queensland are you

 

[howitzer]

Tier 1: McGrath Hadlee Marshall
Tier 2: Steyn Ambrose Imran
Tier 3: Wasim Lillee Donald
Tier 4: Lindwall Garner Trueman
Tier 5: Holding Waqar Davidson Cummins(so far)

Imo. So somewhere between 13-16.

 

[Skipper Pup]

Tier 1: McGrath Hadlee Marshall
Tier 2: Steyn Ambrose Imran
Tier 3: Wasim Lillee Donald
Tier 4: Lindwall Garner Trueman
Tier 5: Holding Waqar Davidson Cummins(so far)

Imo. So somewhere between 13-16.

Are Broad and Anderson in Tier 6?

 

[honestbharani]

He's fine. Jason Gillespie sort of level.

Leadership gets him extra points though. I dont really see him as any top tier captain at the strategy and tactics stuff, but he does seem to be a good leader and also seems to pay the right amount of heed to the advise he gets from the coaching staff.

As a bowler, he has been very good, bordering on great. Depends on how long he can keep this up to see if he ends at the very good or great or ATG levels.

 

[Calm_profit]

Has a good chance to improve his avg in Srilanka next year. BTW, is Srilanka allowed to play cricket since Zimbabwe touring there?

 

[howitzer]

Are Broad and Anderson in Tier 6?

Anderson is. Broad would be tier 7.

 

[Prince EWS]

I thought it was obvious. Captain Woke costing his team $30 million in sponsorship because as Australian cricket captain he refused to do ads for the sponsor paying the $30 million....what am I missing?

I'm the policy director for a right-libertarian party so I don't like this **** either but it's definitely not going to be his legacy. When people look back at his contribution to cricket in the years to come they're gonna be thinking about his Test career, not the CA coffers.

 

[ashley bach]

Are we discussing his captaincy though?

Not sure how much his captaincy credentials should go towards his overall legacy tbh
This was just a one off blooper not to be repeated that will hardly be remembered.

One thing that will be remembered however, at least to the members of cricweb.net was his reply during the Ashes regarding ''the incident"
To very casually, and with a cheeky smirk on his face respond ''OK''was pure gold.

 

[Coronis]

He's fine. Jason Gillespie sort of level.

Call me when he hits a double ton.

 

[capt_Luffy]

I think an interesting question is how close to him Bumrah can go practically now?

 

[howitzer]

I think an interesting question is how close to him Bumrah can go practically now?

Depends how often he can get on the park.

 

[Nintendo]

Is bumrah better than cummins right now? Cummins has longevity and his record in NZ but outside of that I feel like bumrah is better.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Is bumrah better than cummins right now? Cummins has longevity and his record in NZ but outside of that I feel like bumrah is better.

Bumrah just isn't as consistent. His quality varies wildly between not just games but within games. He'd have a case over Cummins if he was super destructive when he's rolling, but it's not the case.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Bumrah just isn't as consistent. His quality varies wildly between not just games but within games. He'd have a case over Cummins if he was super destructive when he's rolling, but it's not the case.

I mean, Bumrah is pretty destructive when on rhythm.... I actually think peak of Cummins and Bumrah are pretty close.

 

[shortpitched713]

I think an interesting question is how close to him Bumrah can go practically now?

More interested in Rabada, out of modern quicks, personally. I think he brings that little extra that Cummins can lack sometimes.

But South Africa just don't play enough ****ing Tests anymore, for Rabada to reasonably end up with the breadth of work for these all time comparisons. Even with very good fitness, I doubt he'll get to 100.

 

[Spark]

Rabada of the three of them is also the most prone to bowling absolute poo for entire games or even series, though. He's the most extreme of them; the most regular wicket-taker but also the least reliable.