***Official*** Pakistan in Australia 2023/24

[TheJediBrah]

Giving Starc a single down the ground when he's on 1 is weak as piss

They should be trying to keep him on strike and encouraging him to go over the top

 

[Starfighter]

The way Marsh is batting here is what Cameron Green should be, but can't

No reason why he should be, not every allrounder needs to be a basher (Kallis anyone?). Trouble is they need to recognise this fact and figure out how to accomodate his natural style.

 

[Burgey]

Not sure a hip high half tracker is the right line of attack to Marsh. Shades of Anderson’s putrid bowling to him in the winter

 

[Starfighter]

Take that, absolutely spanked.

I will say that Marsh is a lot more entertaining.

 

[ashley bach]

Green doesn't need to bat like Marsh but he needs to show some positivity rather than his stonewall defence every ball.

 

[Silver Silva]

Perth is Marsh territory, im sure he is extra determined to get the runs in front of his family and friends

 

[Starfighter]

Green doesn't need to bat like Marsh but he needs to show some positivity rather than his stonewall defence.

I think he'd go better if had some other batsmen to partner with. He bats four for WA, it might help him if they stopped expecting him to bat like a nowadays stereotypical six.

 

[Spark]

Green's best position is very obviously 4. I don't know how to sort that position in the interim but expecting him to bat like MMarsh or Flintoff is simply misreading his game, which is to take time getting set in red ball cricket.

I wouldn't be super opposed to him opening in isolation but it's fair to worry about him getting jerked around and confused by that. He's just not a counter-attacking six, he's a traditional top order batsman and should be treated as such.

I think he'd go better if had some other batsmen to partner with. He bats four for WA, it might help him if they stopped expecting him to bat like a nowadays stereotypical six.

Honestly wondering if the solution is to think about moving Smith if he's starting to roll down the hill.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Make Smith open tbh

 

[Starfighter]

Green's best position is very obviously 4. I don't know how to sort that position in the interim but expecting him to bat like MMarsh or Flintoff is simply misreading his game, which is to take time getting set in red ball cricket.

I wouldn't be super opposed to him opening in isolation but it's fair to worry about him getting jerked around and confused by that. He's just not a counter-attacking six, he's a traditional top order batsman and should be treated as such.



Honestly wondering if the solution is to think about moving Smith if he's starting to roll down the hill.

I was about to reply with the sentence you just edited in. I think maybe Smith could move down to five. While he'll score runs here and there frankly his magic looks pretty much gone now. It might take the pressure off him and let him play more freely while letting Green play his natural game as well.

I don't think having him open would necessarily be a bad signal, he could just play his natural game, but I don't think his defence against the moving ball is good enough. A big guy like him is always going to be a bit of a target on the stumps.

 

[Starfighter]

Surely it's out if there's no inside edge, but I though there probably was.

 

[Starfighter]

Ooh unlucky, it was a bit more leg side than I thought.

 

[TheJediBrah]

I think he'd go better if had some other batsmen to partner with. He bats four for WA, it might help him if they stopped expecting him to bat like a nowadays stereotypical six.

Then he waits his turn. He's being "made into a no. 6" because that's the spot available for him. He's not getting in to bat at the top order so it's either no. 6 or the bench.

**** me imagine a 19 year old Ricky Ponting in the same position. You don't get to just come straight into your favourite position. You need to earn it. Ponting batted 6 for like 5 years before getting the chance at no. 3

 

[Spark]

Well that one is hitting the stumps lol

 

[Starfighter]

Well that's pretty out.

 

[Spark]

Then he waits his turn. He's being "made into a no. 6" because that's the spot available for him. He's not getting in to bat at the top order so it's either no. 6 or the bench.

**** me imagine a 19 year old Ricky Ponting in the same position. You don't get to just come straight into your favourite position. You need to earn it. Ponting batted 6 for like 5 years before getting the chance at no. 3

Why isn't he getting to bat in the top order? He's better than pretty much everyone else who's in consideration for those spots.

 

[morgieb]

Jamal’s bowled some legit jaffas with the crap. Definitely looks like something to work with.

 

[ashley bach]

Jamal delivering some peaches in between the tripe.

 

[duffer]

Pak aren't making more than 300 here

 

[Spark]

Like fmd we can't be complaining about Green not being proactive enough early on then picking blokes like Bancroft, who strikes at 40 in the Shield, or Renshaw instead.