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***Official*** Pakistan in Australia 2023/24
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Burgey
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Still doesn't have a functioning forward defence though, which flat out amazes me. Seems weird he might be thought of as a test opener by some, but then you look at the likes of Duckett and Crawley, and they don't have one either.
quincywagstaff
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Mitchell Johnson has written a column blasting David Warner getting a farewell series, as well suggesting George Bailey as selector too close to the inner sanctum of players to do his job well enough. Didn't have him pegged as a forthright columnist post-retirement, but there you go.
The moment I was 100% certain that Warner was getting picked for the Pakistan series was while watching the AFL Grand Final, Channel 7 ran a flashy ad for the upcoming Test summer where they said it was to celebrate Oz's Test greats, including Warner.
Unless he played like Keith Arthurton at the WC, once Channel 7 were using him to promote the series, no chance that Warner wasn't going to be there.
The moment I was 100% certain that Warner was getting picked for the Pakistan series was while watching the AFL Grand Final, Channel 7 ran a flashy ad for the upcoming Test summer where they said it was to celebrate Oz's Test greats, including Warner.
Unless he played like Keith Arthurton at the WC, once Channel 7 were using him to promote the series, no chance that Warner wasn't going to be there.
ataraxia
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Not tough when Australia will only bat for three innings in the series tbh
Spark
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This is worth pointing out that the reason Johnson isn't still an active commentator for the ABC is because he valued gambling money more.
TheJediBrah
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This is all just talk because realistically Warner was always going to be there for a Test series in Australia. He's still an order of magnitude better than any of his replacements playing at home, even if far past his best. It's not like selecting him is charity for a farewell series, he's still in the best team
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Warner has already had TWO farewell series as everyone knew that he would fail in India and England
What’s more, Cameron Green has performed much better than he has & he was dropped for Mitchell fkn Marsh so you can forget about the whole “no better alternative” theory as well
It’s blatant favouritism and that’s all there is to it
What’s more, Cameron Green has performed much better than he has & he was dropped for Mitchell fkn Marsh so you can forget about the whole “no better alternative” theory as well
It’s blatant favouritism and that’s all there is to it
TheJediBrah
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Warner's done better than Green at home over the past few seasons. And he has the advantage of having done it as opening batsman whereas Green would be getting thrown into the role having never done it before.
I'd actually love it if they did something like that but it's a stretch to call Green a better alternative than Warner as opening batsman in Australia
I'd actually love it if they did something like that but it's a stretch to call Green a better alternative than Warner as opening batsman in Australia
Nintendo
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Ehh, since green's debut warner has played 12 home test's and averaged 32. In that same time period away he's averaged 25.5. He's just not been very good in general. He had that one double vs SA and the odd decent 50 but he's but that's it.
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I'm aware but I don't think anyone else available would have done better. Keep in mind last couple seasons have had some very lively pitches, not easy to open the batting on.
Can't believe I'm defending Warner. I would really love nothing more than to see him dropped and gone but I can't ignore reality to talk it into happening
Nintendo
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Your right, honestly. Don't think Bancroft, Harris or renshaw would have done better. The fact that head was opening in india once Warner was out of the series should have indicated that.
In Warners last 25 Tests he's scored 1243 runs @ 28.90 with 1 hundred, the Boxing Day 200 vs South Africa
Warner would have been on a high that game as he celebrated his hundredth test so might do same in his last test. I don't think he deserves 3 tests to do so though
Warner also retired hurt on 200 being fatigued, came back in fresh next day and was out first ball (effectively resuming form with a golden duck)
Who else has ever been given such mandatory selection after 25 Tests of poor form both home and away
Warner would have been on a high that game as he celebrated his hundredth test so might do same in his last test. I don't think he deserves 3 tests to do so though
Warner also retired hurt on 200 being fatigued, came back in fresh next day and was out first ball (effectively resuming form with a golden duck)
Who else has ever been given such mandatory selection after 25 Tests of poor form both home and away
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quincywagstaff
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Without comparing the stats, I'd say co sidrrably better at home and considerably worse away.
Overall Warner shades it, mainly because of the pace of his scoring.
Gob
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Drubbing is little too strong. He was very good for two and a half tests. Playing six tests back to back doesn't help either
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My view is predicated on the assumption that both become test quality batsmen
If that’s the case, then there’s no reason why they can’t take a couple of wickets & bowl 15 or so overs BETWEEN THEM and that’s all you need from a 5th bowler most of the time
Prince EWS
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I thought he had the potential to be one, but nah. He averages 16 and has two fifties. Most number 8s are better than that. Even his own number 9 is better than him but just worse at developing partnerships with set batsmen.