***Official*** Pakistan in Australia 2023/24

[Qlder]

Australia's squad has been named

Australia's first Test squad: Pat Cummins (c), Scott Boland, Alex Carey, Cameron Green, Josh Hazlewood, Travis Head, Usman Khawaja, Marnus Labuschagne, Nathan Lyon, Mitchell Marsh, Lance Morris, Steve Smith, Mitchell Starc, David Warner

 

[Qlder]

Rumours all over the press Starc may miss 1st Test with a niggle so claiming Lance Morris to debut over Boland?

 

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Rumours all over the press Starc may miss 1st Test with a niggle so claiming Lance Morris to debut over Boland?

It will be Morris

Boland will be lucky to play another test

 

[Spark]

The word is that Morris is there as Starc's replacement if required and Boland is there if either one of Cummins or Hazlewood go down. Given the latter's injury record I wouldn't write Boland off at all.

 

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1730856642923680036

 

[Qlder]

Should have picked Jhye Richardson for PM XI and then added him as cover for Starc after he bowls well. He just took 5 wkts vs Qld and at least he can bat #8. A tail of Lyon, Hazlewood and Morris is

 

[TheJediBrah]

Rumours all over the press Starc may miss 1st Test with a niggle so claiming Lance Morris to debut over Boland?

If it's at the WACA or potentially a real flat surface I can see Morris being the one but otherwise Boland should be a no-brainer.

A left-field option for if Starc is out could be both Green and Marsh play as 3rd and 4th seamer but that could leave the attack a bit samey. While Morris has an ex factor I'm not convinced he's any better than Cam Green as a bowler anyway

 

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Gut feeling is that our test attack will soon be Cummins, Morris, Richardson/Johnson (depending upon who’s out of hospital at the time), Lyon, Green, Hardie

Pretty handy

 

[The_CricketUmpire]

Should have picked Jhye Richardson for PM XI and then added him as cover for Starc after he bowls well. He just took 5 wkts vs Qld and at least he can bat #8. A tail of Lyon, Hazlewood and Morris is

Michael Neser could of slotted in as well. He is a bowler that can bat - in First-Class cricket he has scored 3,563 runs @ 29.20, including five 100s and seventeen 50s.

 

[The_CricketUmpire]

Can anyone with access to the numbers post marsh's number's in FC for WA and Aus-A over the past few years? I want to say pick green cause marsh is really only getting picked on white ball form and two scores against a team who've never known how to bowl to him, but the only times I remember marsh playing domestic red ball cricket recently he made 70* vs the england Lions and an unbeaten ton for WA, so he may have quietly accumulated a good form patch in shield I can't remember.

Well I'd be looking at Mitch Marsh's overall career in Test cricket - he isn't a Test player, he averages 27.45 with the bat and 39.77 with the ball. In a stronger era, he isnt even considered for Test cricket. He is a good white ball player but Test cricket....he needs to be consistent.

Remember WA player Tom Moody, in First-Class cricket he averaged 46.25 with the bat and 30.70 with the ball, he also played a handful of Test matches - eight actually,
and scored two 100s and three 50s...he couldn't get a regular game at Test level but it was a much stronger era of Australian cricket back then.

 

[Qlder]

Well I'd be looking at Mitch Marsh's overall career in Test cricket - he isn't a Test player, he averages 27.45 with the bat and 39.77 with the ball. In a stronger era, he isnt even considered for Test cricket. He is a good white ball player but Test cricket....he needs to be consistent.

His overall Test record has nothing to do with the player he is now. I consider him like Khawaja who struggled in Test cricket, always bring dropped, but then he came back older, wiser and much more relaxed in cricket and in life. Marsh seems like that now, playing freely with no pressure and just enjoying cricket

 

[TheJediBrah]

Gut feeling is that our test attack will soon be Cummins, Morris, Richardson/Johnson (depending upon who’s out of hospital at the time), Lyon, Green, Hardie

Pretty handy

What we really need is one of the all-rounders to develop into a good enough bowler alone so we can bat an all-rounder or keeper at 8. Unfortunately they seem to all be developing into batting all rounders.

At the end of the day if we've got 4 bowlers, having both Green and Hardie (or Marsh) doesn't really add much than having 1 5th bowler does

 

[Prince EWS]

What we really need is one of the all-rounders to develop into a good enough bowler alone so we can bat an all-rounder or keeper at 8. Unfortunately they seem to all be developing into batting all rounders.

At the end of the day if we've got 4 bowlers, having both Green and Hardie (or Marsh) doesn't really add much than having 1 5th bowler does

Yeah Green could become a third seamer easily IMO but it's probably not actually the best use of him given the dearth of batting talent.

Not sure I really see a long-term spot for Hardie in the side as much more than "great squad backup to Green" unfortunately.

 

[Qlder]

Green the bowler frustrates the hell out of me as he seems to struggle to take wickets.

I know he played just as a batsman for a while so his 70 FC wkts in 55 games looks worse than it is but he's bowled in 77 innings for those 70 wkts (37 innings in tests for 30 wkts)

Hardie on the other hand has 62 wkts in 50 innings bowled. At least that means he's likely to get >2 wkts per game

 

[TheJediBrah]

Green the bowler frustrates the hell out of me as he seems to struggle to take wickets.

I know he played just as a batsman for a while so his 70 FC wkts in 55 games looks worse than it is but he has bowled in 77 innings for those 70 wkts (37 innings in tests for 30 wkts)

Hardie on the other hand has 62 wkts in 50 innings bowled. At least that means he's likely to get >2 wkts per game

That's mostly about how Green is bowled though. He rarely bowls that much per innings in Tests, which wouod have to change if he was playing as 3rd seamer

 

[Qlder]

What we really need is one of the all-rounders to develop into a good enough bowler alone so we can bat an all-rounder or keeper at 8. Unfortunately they seem to all be developing into batting all rounders.

So basically someone like Michael Neser

 

[The_CricketUmpire]

His overall Test record had nothing to do with the player he is now. I consider him like Khawaja who struggled in Test cricket always bring dropped, but then he came back older, wiser and much more relaxed in cricket and in life. Marsh seems like that now, playing freely with no pressure and just enjoying cricket

Marsh has batted 61 times in Test cricket and bowled 59 times in Test cricket...more than enough opportunities to at the very least be consistent at Test level..

 

[TheJediBrah]

Marsh has batted 61 times in Test cricket and bowled 59 times in Test cricket...more than enough opportunities to at the very least be consistent at Test level..

That's true but 2023 Mitch Marsh seems like a very different player to pre-2020 Mitch Marsh

 

[Prince EWS]

Marsh has batted 61 times in Test cricket and bowled 59 times in Test cricket...more than enough opportunities to at the very least be consistent at Test level..

I wouldn't have recalled him to begin with but he's been good since they did. You can't recall someone, see them do well and then drop them because they were **** before the recall - makes no sense.

 

[TheJediBrah]

"Things with Sarah are great since we got back together but she got fat last time so I better dump her just in case"

Actually that makes sense. CricketUmpire might be onto something