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The Underarm vs Timed Out

Which Incident undermined the Spirit of Cricket more ?


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Coronis

International Coach
I’m seriously surprised there are any votes for Shakib lol. This feels like comparing Bodyline with the bowling at the tailenders in the recent Ashes
 

HeathDavisSpeed

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
It seems he thought the umpires were 'spineless' and effectively part of a conspiracy. I must confess, I hadn't considered this angle before. JUSTICE FOR MCKECHNIE!
Right. I've been doing my research and the revelation that the umpires were craven and had a part of the duplicitous underarm incident have led me to uncover a massive conspiracy. Bear with me and I'll soon reveal all.
 

Burgey

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I’m seriously surprised there are any votes for Shakib lol. This feels like comparing Bodyline with the bowling at the tailenders in the recent Ashes
I think the thing is people were understandably stunned at australia doing the under arm, whereas the timed out fiasco is the sort of thing expected from the lesser nations, so folks sort of take it in their stride.

Also, the timed out was done to SL. So it‘a a bit like when bikie gangs are topping each other - sure, the cops look into it, but it’s really only when they catch a bystander in the cross fire that things heat up. SL are usually up to their necks in tantrums and arseholery, whereas NZ at the time of underarm were like the family in the car park at Milperra all those years ago.
 
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Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
The laws were changed as a result of the underarm, I doubt anything different will happen from the Shakib/Mathews affair other than no other captain will be such a duplicitous ****.

And worth pointing out that up to this point, none of them had been.
 

Adorable Asshole

International Regular
I think the thing is people were understandably stunned at australia doing the under arm, whereas the timed out fiasco is the sort of thing expected from the lesser nations, so folks sort of take it in their stride.

Also, the timed out was done to SL. So it‘a a bit like when bikie gangs are topping each other - sure, the cops look into it, but it’s really only when they catch a bystander in the cross fire that things heat up. SL are usually up to their necks in tantrums and arseholery, whereas NZ at the time of underarm were like the family in the car park at Milperra all those years ago.
Nobody was stunned that Aussies did the underarm.

If anything people are stunned that Aussies were not the first to do the timed out.
 

cnerd123

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timed out isn't as bad as rolling the ball because batters taking their own sweet time to play a ball ruins the game for everyone, hence the timed out law coming into existence. Rolling the ball was just a loophole in the laws that no one thought of patching up because no one was a big enough **** to exploit it till the aussies did it.

It's even worse because they were defending 6 off the last ball. 99 times out of 100 they win that just bowling properly. the aussies being spineless dickheads is much worse than BD exploiting the timed out law to get a proper batter out at a key stage of the game.
 
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Adorable Asshole

International Regular
timed out isn't as bad a rolling the ball because batters taking their own sweet time to play a ball ruins the game for everyone, hence the timed out law coming existing. Rolling the ball was just a loophole in the laws that no one thought of patching up because no one was a big enough **** to exploit it till the aussies did it.

It's even worse because they were defending 6 off the last ball. 99 times out of 100 they win that just bowling properly. the aussies being spineless dickheads is much worse than BD exploiting the timed out law to get a proper batter out at a key stage of the game.
Yeah Aussies were bad and they should feel bad.
 

Ali TT

International Vice-Captain
I think the thing is people were understandably stunned at australia doing the under arm, whereas the timed out fiasco is the sort of thing expected from the lesser nations, so folks sort of take it in their stride.

Also, the timed out was done to SL. So it‘a a bit like when bikie gangs are topping each other - sure, the cops look into it, but it’s really only when they catch a bystander in the cross fire that things heat up. SL are usually up to their necks in tantrums and arseholery, whereas NZ at the time of underarm were like the family in the car park at Milperra all those years ago.
This was the "lesser nation" '81 Aussies though.
 

Burgey

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The laws were changed as a result of the underarm, I doubt anything different will happen from the Shakib/Mathews affair other than no other captain will be such a duplicitous ****.

And worth pointing out that up to this point, none of them had been.
This is probably true actually. SL have already used up their rule change wrt to murali.
 

HeathDavisSpeed

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Whilst doing my research for this, I was surprised to learn that CricketWeb.net/Forum cult hero Alecz Day had suffered a cardiac arrest whilst training a couple of years ago. I am expanding my research to include potential collaboration of discredited umpires with the Queensland public health system. This conspiracy goes DEEP.
 

shortpitched713

International Captain
Researching this incident over, ran across this, and I do have to say random StackExchange user does have a point:


Why didn't they just do that? Is there some other unfair advantage to bowling 1 bounce underarm deliveries that I'm not aware of?

So I tried it out (one of those cricket style hard tennis balls, on a driveway), and I realized that it does have some surprise viability to it. Basically you should only do it for bowling spin, and controlling the length can be a bitch ( so wrist spin feels pretty much out ), but for finger spin it has a distinct advantage of being able to bowl doosras rather easily, without chucking because your shoulder is much easier to align compared to difficulty in doing that with the overarm doosra (causing the need to chuck). So you've got low skidding off spinners, doosras, and a "skipper" ball, it could be quite a handful for an unsuspecting batsman. That's given you've mastered the control to not send a slew of half trackers and full tosses that are getting dispatched, which is very easy to do in this style, but hey.

Anyway, I don't see any reason that this style of bowling would be fundamentally unfair, and I think it was an oversight and probably an overreaction to ban it.
 

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