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*Official* Match 17# India vs Bangladesh - The Pune Clash

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
Not true for the ODI team imo. Shardul is a liability, and Siraj is very up and down. The batting is definitely stronger.
Think I agree. If Afghanistan can knock up 270, then I suspect at some point one of the stronger batting units could hit them for 300 plus. Then we'll find out how good their batting is.
 

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
Always amusing when you see two pieces of abysmal fielding off the same delivery - Bangladesh on fire.
 

Andyhere

International 12th Man
Bangladesh has got good talented individual cricketers. The issue is they don't know how to build a team. No role clarity, chopping and changing, and the most unsettled batting order in the tournament.
 

mackembhoy

International Regular
Well, Shami is nowhere near as good as Starc for one.

He is a good bowler, but his stats (mostly the average) flatter him imo, had the occasional tendency to to get smashed in the important part of the game and then pick some cheap wickets at the end - this is somewhat shown in his economy rate as well.

All this is not to say that he is a bad bowler in any way, he'd be our first choice bowler for 85-90% of our ODI history (i.e. before Bumrah came along), but he really didn't show any particular gap to Siraj before the cup started. He would also easily get above Thakur as a bowler, but the setup believes they need someone capable of some batting there. Shami used to be okayish with the bat early career but for the last few years he has been little more than a meme. Of course, this assumes that Thakur has some ability with the bat which is an open question.
That's a lot of words for underrating your most effective ODI bowler ever.

I agree Shami isn't as good as Starc but he's as close as you've had.Miles ahead of everyone else you've had SR wise and if you'd have played him more he'd be well past 200 wickets and would have got their quicker than Starc. He still could seeing as he needs 29 wickets 10 games.
 

Shri

Mr. Glass
if hardik's out for nz game

Rohit
Gill
Kohli
Shreyas
Rahul
Ishan/SKY
Jaddu
Kuldeep
Shami
Bumrah
Siraj

Ashwin instead of Shami strengthen the tail but a good fast bowler will make a great #8 unnecessary
 

Andyhere

International 12th Man
if hardik's out for nz game

Rohit
Gill
Kohli
Shreyas
Rahul
Ishan/SKY
Jaddu
Kuldeep
Shami
Bumrah
Siraj

Ashwin instead of Shami strengthen the tail but a good fast bowler will make a great #8 unnecessary
Ashwin over shami would work in the following game against England in Lucknow. In dharamshala conditions 3rd spinner won't make sense
 

Andyhere

International 12th Man
India have won all the games chasing so far. Time to see how they go about batting first and setting a target.
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Yeah but you’re hurting your NRR by taking longer. So I don’t like the refusal of singles like that. It’s one thing to go for a six when you need six to get to a hundred but something about this I just don’t like personally.

Won’t deny its good drama though. And the NRR difference will only be by a very very small margin. But just the principle of it doesn’t sit well with me.
 

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