Neil Young
State Vice-Captain
Aus are going to win the thing, aren't they?
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*Official* Match #10 — Australia Vs South Africa Oct 12th, Lucknow
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Athlai
Not Terrible
They really arent
BeeGee
International Captain
If it were a case of a good team having a slow start to a tournament, then yeah. Trouble is I'm not sure that's the case here.
They've just looked so bad.
Anyhoo, let's see how much they improve against SL.
thierry henry
International Coach
A mate was telling me this morning about how Smith had been sawn off by a DRS conspiracy. Watched the highlights and it's just out, right?
I've seen Smith get out lbw many times playing from the crease to balls which rebound into the leg side, there's always an illusion that they are highish and leg sideish because he's so far back and across.
I've seen Smith get out lbw many times playing from the crease to balls which rebound into the leg side, there's always an illusion that they are highish and leg sideish because he's so far back and across.
Zinzan
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It's an accident waiting to happen when you stack your side with all-rounders, with not enough proper batsmen.
The fact Warner isn't the player he once was means Marnus and Smith are the only 2 true batsmen. As I said earlier, It's utter madness that Khawaja didn't make the squad, especially in India conditions.
Neil Young
State Vice-Captain
Yeah, they definitely look bad. I can't believe quite how bad.
Burgey
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Possibly so. I don’t think they’re playing well enough though and the point you make about picking test players across all formats is a bit of a factor imo. Not the main one but as spark mentioned overnight, a lot of the side looks cooked tb - the fieldig is the biggest give away in that regard. Been a long year. Shows a real lack of foresight and planning that they’ve got to this point tbh
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Richardson is a walking injury
Fuller Pilch
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He hasn't played an ODI since the 2019 WC.
quincywagstaff
International Debutant
As an aside the stat for the March 22 match appears to be wrong. Australia's biggest collapse in that innings was 5/70 (and they won the match anyway).
Son Of Coco
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Eddie Jones comes from coaching England and stuffs up our rugby team. Inglish comes from England and stuffs up our one day team.
It's no coincidence.
Burgey
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Yessssss
TheJediBrah
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I'm afraid this just isn't true. The only all-rounder that doesn't merit a place in the team as a batsman alone is Stoinis, and everyone has agreed for years that he shouldn't be anywhere near the team. Mitch Marsh and Glenn Maxwell are essentially playing as batsmen, with other skills as a bonus. Cam Green is a borderline case but it's fair to say he would be picked as a batsman ahead of just about anyone else in domestic cricket too.
The only guy in Aus domestics who should probably be in the squad as a batsman ahead of the non-Stoinis all-rounders is Ashton Turner. Khawaja not so much, and a big reason for that is that like almost everyone else in the Aus team he needs to bat at the top of the order to be effective. You can't pick 7 opening batsmen in a team.
So in summary, Australia aren't so much picking a bunch of all-rounders because they want a lot of all-rounders. It's just that 3 or 4 of their best ODI batsmen just happen to be all-rounders
TheJediBrah
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I think the loss of Travis Head is what's allowing a nothing like Stoinis to play. Essentially moving everyone up in the order. Losing Head and playing Stoinis is almost like going from an 11-man team to 10.
Having said all this they simply played very bad in the games they lost. Having Head, Khawaja or Turner probably wouldn't have changed it
Having said all this they simply played very bad in the games they lost. Having Head, Khawaja or Turner probably wouldn't have changed it
Spark
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Yeah there's no real shame in losing the two games they've lost, both India and SA look the goods this year and both ought to go deep into the tournament. But I'm not copping that fielding display, that was disgraceful.
Spark
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The fielding was a big problem during the Ashes too. I'm not sure how seriously to take the claims that they no longer actually practice fielding intensively but if so then McDonald needs immediate sacking.