Malcolm Marshall vs. Sachin Tendulkar

[Adorable Asshole]

This is pure speculation.

What's wrong with that? You know what thread and sub forum this is?

 

[subshakerz]

Anderson was pretty green when he troubled Sachin. Would probably have destroyed Tendulkar in his prime.

Tendulkar looked in good form in the 2007 series though so troubled is relative.

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

What's wrong with that? You know what thread and sub forum this is?

Even if I agree Anderson would have 'destroyed' prime Tendulkar, what difference does it make? Its not like Tendulkar had a problem in English conditions.

 

[Adorable Asshole]

Tendulkar looked in good form in the 2007 series though so troubled is relative.

Looked pretty troubled here

 

[Saket1209]

Tendulkar post 2010 was a crap in test. In the last stages he was a burden for the team. Never was Marshall he was good enough to play for 2 more years but was removed due to politics.

 

[Adorable Asshole]

Even if I agree Anderson would have 'destroyed' prime Tendulkar, what difference does it make? Its not like Tendulkar had a problem in English conditions.

He had a problem with moving ball in helpful conditions.

 

[subshakerz]

Marshall peak was for 54 test match which is 2-3 of his career. Plus his peak was quite astonishing.

Which 54 are you counting. I consider his peak beginning with his series in India in 83 when he took the new ball and ending with his series in England in 88, after which he declined.

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

He had a problem with moving ball in helpful conditions.

He averaged 50+ in Eng(including successful series in the 90s) and nearly 50 in NZ. Very minor problem if ever there was one.

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

Far more serious problems were Lara's problems against serious pace, Kallis' struggles in Eng etc

 

[subshakerz]

Tendulkar post 2010 was a crap in test. In the last stages he was a burden for the team. Never was Marshall he was good enough to play for 2 more years but was removed due to politics.

Tendulkar had 200 tests and that was only 10 percent of his career.

 

[Saket1209]

Which 54 are you counting. I consider his peak beginning with his series in India in 83 when he took the new ball and ending with his series in England in 88, after which he declined.

His peak started against the test series in Caribbean against India and ended same against India in Caribbean in 1989. He literally got 3 fifers in a row against India and you are saying he declined. His declined started in 1990 when Ambrose started to come to the party.

 

[Saket1209]

Still marshall was never the burden for his team.

 

[Adorable Asshole]

He averaged 50+ in Eng(including successful series in the 90s) and nearly 50 in NZ. Very minor problem if ever there was one.

Because both countries had **** bowlers. When Anderson in England his average drops to 35.

 

[subshakerz]

So no one's going to point out that sentence makes 0 sense?

Most here would understand that Tendulkar faced a wider variety of testing conditions and bowlers than Atherton, but Atherton by virtue of being opener faced the brunt worse.

To your other point, to be clear, if it's close, as these two are. And in no way have I tried to disparage Tendulkar or reduce his accomplishments, then one could get the slightest of advantages as bowlers are seen as more important.

You did with the whole 'bowlers more valuable than batsmen and hence better' cheap argument sadly. It's a copout statement that you yourself don't take seriously in your own ranking of ATGs

 

[Saket1209]

Because both countries had **** bowlers. When Anderson in England his average drops to 35.

Nah England still had some decent bowlers like Darren, Steve, Angus,Caddick

 

[subshakerz]

His peak started against the test series in Caribbean against India and ended same against India in Caribbean in 1989. He literally got 3 fifers in a row against India and you are saying he declined. His declined started in 1990 when Ambrose started to come to the party.

Yes he declined the series earlier and was demoted form opening bowler.

 

[Saket1209]

Yes he declined the series earlier and was demoted form opening bowler.

He declined in the home series against Eng in 1990 when Ambrose was recalled into the test side.

 

[OverratedSanity]

He had a problem with moving ball in helpful conditions.

No he didn't wtf is this

 

[subshakerz]

He declined in the home series against Eng in 1990 when Ambrose was recalled into the test side.

Ok

 

[subshakerz]

Tendulkar leading now, good.