*Unofficial* New Zealand Black Caps Thread

[Mike5181]

He kind of had to make it. Whenever I tried to make an XI the balance always seemed off with Santner being pushed to 7. Bracewell left a surprisingly big hole to fill.

 

[Prince EWS]

Without Bracewell we look light in the spinning department. Big gap between Sodhi/santner and then Phillips, Ravindra and chapman.

I'd go:

Young
Conway
Williamson
Mitchell
Latham+
Philips
Neesham
Santner
Henry
Sodhi
Ferguson
Boult

Pretty sure picking 12 is cheating.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Without Bracewell we look light in the spinning department. Big gap between Sodhi/santner and then Phillips, Ravindra and chapman.

I'd go:

Young
Conway
Williamson
Mitchell
Latham+
Philips
Neesham
Santner
Henry
Sodhi
Ferguson
Boult

Great strategy to pick 12 players. If we can get away with it we might win the tournament.

 

[NZTailender]

Lol

I'd leave out Ferguson on current form

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Anyway from that 12, we'd surely pick 1 of Sodhi and Ferguson depending on conditions.

 

[Mike5181]

1. Devon Conway
2. Will Young
3. Kane Williamson
4. Daryl Mitchell
5. Tom Latham
6. Glenn Phillips
7. James Neesham
8. Mitchell Santner
9. Matt Henry
10. Lockie Ferguson/Ish Sodhi
11. Trent Boult

The more I think about it the more Neesham as the third fast bowler in India seems crazy. Maybe you just pick Chapman, run with either Ferguson or Southee as the third quick, and hope you get through that 5th block of 10 with some combination of Mitchell, Phillips, Chapman.

 

[thundaboult]

I'm guessing southee took milne's spot because southee can actually get through 10 overs if needed.... re : milne again, i thought wrapping someone in wool and protecting them/managing their workload was supposed to keep them on the park?? or is milne just made out of wet papers?

all in all i like this squad, well done to NZC and yeah...bracewell was a lock if he was fit, big loss on best balance, batting with the tail and power hitting aspect

but hopefully a phillips or chapman can take their chance now and try fill the void

lot depends on lockie getting his s*** together, big pressure on him

 

[NZTailender]

Not choosing injured players or anyone in that 15 man squad, would our second ODI XI be:

1. Allen
2. Bowes/Blundell
3. Cleaver+
4. Nicholls
5. Bruce
6. McConchie
7. D Bracewell
8. Jamieson
9. Duffy
10. Lister
11. Ashok

Real slow morning at NZT Inc.

 

[ataraxia]

ngl NZC really teased us by pretending they were going to select Nicholls

 

[thundaboult]

Not choosing injured players or anyone in that 15 man squad, would our second ODI XI be:

1. Allen
2. Bowes/Blundell
3. Cleaver+
4. Nicholls
5. Bruce
6. McConchie
7. D Bracewell
8. Jamieson
9. Duffy
10. Lister
11. Ashok

Real slow morning at NZT Inc.

clarkson for nicholls imo but pretty aight

 

[Fuller Pilch]

And Foxcroft

 

[NZTailender]

And Foxcroft

I had thought about Foxcroft but was sticking mostly to those who had already made a ODI dayboo - although did make an exception for Bruce.

Tbh I'd probably open with Blundell and maybe Allen although I still don't rate him (but would still choose him over Bowes). Foxcroft 3, Cleaver 4, Bruce 5, Clarkson 6, McConchie 7. Then maybe exclude Lister and have the same bowlers with Dougeh at 8.

 

[SteveNZ]

With Mitchell increasingly a pure batsman, CDG gone and Bracewell out does he pretty much make it by default as the only seam bowling allrounder/last allrounder standing?

100% yes.

 

[NZTailender]

Lol newshub

 

[SteveNZ]

What do we make of Neesham's selection? I've said in the past it would be harsh not to select him on the basis of T20I form, given he's had such limited opportunities in ODIs since 2019, but jeez he hasn't given us much to go on in any format.

With Mitchell increasingly a pure batsman, CDG gone and Bracewell out does he pretty much make it by default as the only seam bowling allrounder/last allrounder standing?

Neesham's numbers in 14 ODIs since the 2019 World Cup? Runs at 17, and wickets at 58s. Limited opportunities, sure, but you couldn't say he's grasped them.

The side needed some element of balance and he's the only all-rounder with experience. Maybe they think he delivers in the big moments. I still think it's way too risky that he plays at 7 and bowls 10 overs along with Mitchell and Phillips, although if Glenn keeps going OK, they might be tempted.

 

[SteveNZ]

Interesting that Stead said the following on Chapman:

Stead said Chapman and fellow power-hitter Glenn Phillips were also part-time spin bowling options in India.

Doesn't marry up with what Doull said about Chapman having the yips.

 

[Zinzan]

Not choosing injured players or anyone in that 15 man squad, would our second ODI XI be:

1. Allen
2. Bowes/Blundell
3. Cleaver+
4. Nicholls
5. Bruce
6. McConchie
7. D Bracewell
8. Jamieson
9. Duffy
10. Lister
11. Ashok

Real slow morning at NZT Inc.

Is Shipley injured & who'd be your skipper? Tom Bruce

 

[Nintendo]

Is Shipley injured & who'd be your skipper? Tom Bruce

Shipley's got a back injury according to cricinfo, its why he didn't make the England squad.

 

[ataraxia]

Unrelated but I thought Chapman's T20I average of 31 was Hong Kong inflated. I thought he got many starts but was just a cut below; mediocre at international level. But actually he averages 36 and strikes at 143, across 40 games. Goddamn. That Pakistan series really helped.

 

[NZTailender]

Is Shipley injured & who'd be your skipper? Tom Bruce

Bruce seems the only logical choice for skipper. Maybe Cleaver