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Curtly Ambrose vs Brian Lara
- Thread starter BazBall21
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subshakerz
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Tough one. I am going to say Lara, ever so slightly. Lara is around 7 to 10 of my bats and Ambrose is number 6 on my pacer list.
trundler
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More batsmen than pacers though.
Prince EWS
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Well he did vote for Lara even though he was further down his list so I think he took that into account.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Yes. But it is close and I don't think there is a wrong answer on this one.
Prince EWS
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CricAddict
Cricketer Of The Year
This. Both are equally great.
_00_deathscar
International Regular
This one is quite even stevens
Slifer
International Captain
Seriously? Ambrose all day. Ambrose was consistent home and away vs all comers. And if averaging sub 25 is roughly equivalent to averaging 50, then it's no contest. In the 90s, Lara famously came up 2nd best vs the likes of Donald, Wasim etc. Curtly afaic came up 2nd best to no one (generally speaking).
Funny enough, they both have the same bogey team ie India. Funny because they both played India almost exclusively at home. A real head scratcher that.
Funny enough, they both have the same bogey team ie India. Funny because they both played India almost exclusively at home. A real head scratcher that.
BazBall21
International Captain
I think I would prefer Ambrose in my team too.
Slifer
International Captain
I generally judge players on 3 main metrics to start off with: their overall stats, record vs the best, then their home and away performances. Ambrose and Lara both have overall great stats. Lara's would be better if he had more not outs but whatever. Then vs the best ie Australia both were great. Lastly, home and away. Lara was very very good outside the Caribbean but Ambrose was great overall. So Ambrose gets the edge.
It also helps that their careers tended to overlap as much as it did. Otherwise it might've been tougher to a separate them.
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BazBall21
International Captain
Lara would be the more valuable player in Asia. But I think anywhere outside Asia I'd prefer Ambrose except maybe on Antigua/Edgbaston type tracks. Especially against top teams, critically. Guess the argument for Lara would be his nineteen big hundreds as a critique of Ambrose in the second half of his career was his WPM.
SillyCowCorner1
Moooo
Daylight was a fine player in his time.
BazBall21
International Captain
Good list. Love Walcott despite his mediocre away record. I tend to rate holding over Joel but that's a flick of a coin.
Slifer
International Captain
Yeah Walcott was so so away but I rate him mostly because he was also a decent wicket keeper. And he had back to back atg series vs two atg bowling attacks. And he still holds the record for most 100s in a series.
Slifer
International Captain
He was; had one of the best slower balls you'll ever see...
Coronis
International Coach
lol seriously?
Lara averages 47 away from home and Ambrose averages 20 away from home but Lara has the better away record? You drunk mate?
Coronis
International Coach
Its funny actually, looking at the great West Indies batsmen.
Headley 77.56 home, 47.45 away
Weekes 69.14 home, 49.63 away
Sobers 66.80 home, 50.73 away
Walcott 69.83 home, 40.46 away
Lara 58.65 home, 48.26 away
Chanders 58.36 home, 45.44 away
Richards 49.77 home, 50.50 away
Worrell 55.41 home, 44.90 away
Lloyd 46.46 home, 46.80 away
Kanhai 48.63 home, 46.51 away
Greenidge 48.62 home, 42.22 away
*neutral = away for this list
Big list of HTB’s aside from Richards, Lloyd and Kanhai.
Also random shoutout to Darren Bravo. 26.78 at home, 46.78 away.
Headley 77.56 home, 47.45 away
Weekes 69.14 home, 49.63 away
Sobers 66.80 home, 50.73 away
Walcott 69.83 home, 40.46 away
Lara 58.65 home, 48.26 away
Chanders 58.36 home, 45.44 away
Richards 49.77 home, 50.50 away
Worrell 55.41 home, 44.90 away
Lloyd 46.46 home, 46.80 away
Kanhai 48.63 home, 46.51 away
Greenidge 48.62 home, 42.22 away
*neutral = away for this list
Big list of HTB’s aside from Richards, Lloyd and Kanhai.
Also random shoutout to Darren Bravo. 26.78 at home, 46.78 away.
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Erm, as far as I'm aware great is better than very good and he voted for Ambrose precisely because of his better away record.