honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
Nah... he is earnest in his inability to stomach successful Indian cricketers, esp. post 2000.
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Ravichandran Ashwin vs Pat Cummins
- Thread starter PlayerComparisons
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What is true? Dude was waffling like you all over the place with their points, what's remotely close to a valid point there that isn't just bitching about Ashwin being considered an ATG because it offends your sensibilities?
Please don't make up nonsense and pretend to be the 'average' fan and speak for them. It's embarrassing behaviour for a teacher to lie and make things up like this. Have some shame and refrain please.
subshakerz
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Yeah agreed. ATG is a subjective title so we should give our own definitions first ideally.
subshakerz
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I thought you would agree that the captain and team management unfairly have a rather negative perception of Ashwin overseas, especially in England.
Prince EWS
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Really surprised it's as close as it is.
I'm addressing the delusions about fan opinions you're making up here, not how the team management views him in an XI that has to play currently.
subshakerz
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When Ashwin retires and 10 years on, what are non Indian fans and pundits going to celebrate about him?
Jadeja may end up being better appreciated by the cricket fraternity.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
Jealous and wrong, as always.
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To be clear when I say earnest, he was genuinely arguing things he believes (however incorrect they may be) as opposed to this thread where he’s clearly trying to get a rise with stuff like “Ashwin will be forgotten”
CricAddict
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subz sure has played a part in that
_00_deathscar
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Ashwin has more 5-fers
Cummins doesn’t take many
Therefore Ashwin is better
Cummins doesn’t take many
Therefore Ashwin is better
OverratedSanity
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Damn, this is the truth. Cummins only has 9 5fers his entire career. His cute 3fers aren't impressing anyone.
Adorable Asshole
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If we are talking about Tests then it's only Smith, Cummins and Root.
CricAddict
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How is Cummins ATG while Ashwin and Jadeja are not?
I don't know, celebrate beating Cummins in Australia twice? Black mark to give up home series like that.
Anderson and Ashwin definitely for their sheer impact on winning matches and series for their country and skills set they got.
Jadeja is getting there too but he need to win something in South Africa later this year because he missed the two past tours to SA in 2018 and 2022( whichever year it was).
The only black mark can be to not win a series in South Africa in either 2018 or 2022.
In England, they drew( where Jadeja did a fine job) and Ashwin/Jadeja both contributed in winning two series in Australia as well.
Ashwin is closer to ATG for me without even factoring his batting in. I reckon Cummins is a clearly (if not that substantially) better bowler for now, but a full career vs a baby one is a huge difference.