All time Asian-XI

[Silver Line]

Shakib underrated af here, dude has zero literal zero support yet averages under 30 with the ball

In an atg team he would be insane given how good his batting is too

 

[subshakerz]

I would go with Younis though, as Dravid averages 54 during his Peak (97-05) after removing Bangladesh, Zimbabwe and WI.

54 is great stuff but in comparison to Younis’s peak numbers he falls behind. Secondly his peak window of 8 years is also lesser than the others.

Yeah but Younis was playing on a lot of dour pitches in that time and wasn't as tested abroad compared to Dravid.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Need a gun keeper especially when dealing with huge swing from Wasim and massive turn from Murali. Therefore I'd pick Prasanna Jayawardene.

 

[subshakerz]

Shakib underrated af here, dude has zero literal zero support yet averages under 30 with the ball

In an atg team he would be insane given how good his batting is too

He is not as good as his numbers frankly. I wouldn't mind him as 12th man but in tests, you have Kapil.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Gavaskar
Sehwag
Sangakkara
Tendulkar
Miandad
Shakib
Imran (c)
Prasanna J (wk)
Wasim
Waqar
Murali

 

[subshakerz]

Need a gun keeper especially when dealing with huge swing from Wasim and massive turn from Murali. Therefore I'd pick Prasanna Jayawardene.

Not good enough with the bat.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Not good enough with the bat.

Fine for a no 8 (see above)

 

[Silver Line]

Yeah but Younis was playing on a lot of dour pitches in that time and wasn't as tested abroad compared to Dravid.

what? Younis played most of his career abroad, Younis couldn't even reap home advantage properly, due to pakistans home ban. Isnt younis the only batsman in history to score a century in 11 different countries? What is this abroad claim?

 

[Silver Line]

Not good enough with the bat.

do you really need to sit there worrying about the bat lineup in an atg or how many potentials catches can be dropped?

 

[subshakerz]

Gavaskar
Sehwag
Sangakkara
Tendulkar
Miandad
Shakib
Imran (c)
Prasanna J (wk)
Wasim
Waqar
Murali

Compared to my XI, you end up with a weaker batting lineup thanks to dropping Dravid and a weaker bowling lineup with Shakib rather than Kumble as second spinner. You do have more depth though and a better keeper but that won't matter as much.

 

[subshakerz]

do you really need to sit there worrying about the bat lineup in an atg or how many potentials catches can be dropped?

Yes because it is assumed they face ATG XIs of similar strength. Sanga was a good keeper IMO. Not great or acrobatic but fairly safe, which is what matters.

 

[BazBall21]

I would go with Younis though, as Dravid averages 54 during his Peak (97-05) after removing Bangladesh, Zimbabwe and WI.

54 is great stuff but in comparison to Younis’s peak numbers he falls behind. Secondly his peak window of 8 years is also lesser than the others.

Dravid did also average 65 away from home at the end of his peak. Remove Bangladesh, Zimbabwe and Pakistan roads and it's still above sixty. Younis wasn't as good as him against any type of pace bowling.

Interesting to note that Sangakkara under this filter never got above 45. Dravid finished six points higher but the gap was bigger than that throughout their careers.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Isnt younis the only batsman in history to score a century in 11 different countries?

I think so. (If we count the Windies as 1 country, Kane has done it in 10. His highest score in SA is only 77, but has only played 4 tests there).

 

[trundler]

Younis wasn't as good as him against any type of pace bowling.

This isn't true. Younis was much better against spin for sure at the very least.

 

[Silver Line]

Dravid did also average 65 away from home at the end of his peak. Remove Bangladesh, Zimbabwe and Pakistan roads and it's still above sixty. Younis wasn't as good as him against any type of pace bowling.

Interesting to note that Sangakkara under this filter never got above 45. Dravid finished six points higher but the gap was bigger than that throughout their careers.

genuine question, why did Dravid with numbers like these and players like Sachin, Sehwag, Laxman, Kumble, Dhoni, Zaheer, Irfan etc always ended up losing games for india?

when I think of that indian side despite all these names they lost more than they won. Makes you wuestion if all these numbers stacked, what was the point if you couldnt achieve wins

 

[BazBall21]

This isn't true. Younis was much better against spin for sure at the very least.

Yeah he was better than Dravid against spin. I rate Dravid ahead against high pace and lateral movement.

 

[Silver Line]

Dude just pulled younis wasnt good abroad while playing 99 away games compared to 19 home games, where at home he clearly had his strength their which he couldnt avail into his overall stats.

this guy is clueless

 

[BazBall21]

genuine question, why did Dravid with numbers like these and players like Sachin, Sehwag, Laxman, Kumble, Dhoni, Zaheer, Irfan etc always ended up losing games for india?

when I think of that indian side despite all these names they lost more than they won. Makes you wuestion if all these numbers stacked, what was the point if you couldnt achieve wins

I would never blame the guy who scored runs on his team losing. But to answer your question, think their bowling stocks just weren't good enough.

 

[OverratedSanity]

genuine question, why did Dravid with numbers like these and players like Sachin, Sehwag, Laxman, Kumble, Dhoni, Zaheer, Irfan etc always ended up losing games for india?

when I think of that indian side despite all these names they lost more than they won. Makes you wuestion if all these numbers stacked, what was the point if you couldnt achieve wins

Lol what which format are you talking about?

India were probably the team that consistently gave Australia their toughest series in tests when Sachin dravid laxman sehwag played together. And got to number 1 in the world once zaheer learned how to bowl properly. The large majority of India's overseas wins also had a big contribution from dravid too, so that was just a weird claim.

 

[Silver Line]

I would never blame the guy who scored runs on his team losing. But to answer your question, think their bowling stocks just weren't good enough.

But india’s bowling was never good before that either, they were all 30 averaging bowlers before them too, except india found all its atg lineup in dravids gen compared to other gens and yet lost so often.

i think some batsmen’s approach and statpadding claim is quite likely true