*Official* First Test (Edgbaston, Birmingham) 16–20 June

[CartyDurham]

I've seen lot of posts on here trying to define what is an all time great, but I don't think I've seen Merv's name mentioned as an ATG.

ATG character/personality though

He is to me. Own personal opinion. I like to go from the usual.

he initimidated England completely

 

[G. S. Kohli]

KHAWAJA'S MARATHON
MOST MINUTES BATTED IN AN ASHES TEST

Batter	Runs	Balls	Mins	Ground	Year
AN COOK (ENG)	302	596	908	BRISBANE	2010
H SUTCLIFFE (ENG)	303	871	810	MELBOURNE	1925
L HUTTON (ENG)	364	847	797	THE OVAL	1938
UT KHAWAJA (AUS)	206	518	796	BIRMINGHAM	2023
RB SIMPSON (AUS)	315	749	767	MANCHESTER

 

[Victor Ian]

I'm suffering Great Test withdrawal. Hurry up with the next goddamnit!

 

[G. S. Kohli]

Declared 1st innings & lost test match

Bangladesh in Nz declared 595/8 lost vs Nz

Eng 393/8 in eng declared lost vs Aus last week

Declaring in the first innings of a Test and losing

Team	Score	Opposition	Margin	Ground	Season	Scorecard
Pakistan	387/9d	v England	5 wickets	Lahore	1961/62	Test 512
West Indies	526/7d	v England	7 wickets	Port of Spain	1967/68	Test 635
India	306/6d	v West Indies	10 wickets	Kingston	1975/76	Test 776
Australia	401/9d	v England	18 runs	Leeds	1981	Test 905
South Africa	248/8d	v England	2 wickets	Centurion	1999/00	Test 1483
Zimbabwe	422/9d	v India	7 wickets	Delhi	2000/01	Test 1515
West Indies	395/9d	v England	7 wickets	Manchester	2004	Test 1711
South Africa	451/9d	v Australia	8 wickets	Sydney	2005/06	Test 1780
England	551/6d	v Australia	6 wickets

 

[Victor Ian]

Declared 1st innings & lost test match

Bangladesh in Nz declared 595/8 lost vs Nz

Eng 393/8 in eng declared lost vs Aus last week

Declaring in the first innings of a Test and losing

Team	Score	Opposition	Margin	Ground	Season	Scorecard
Pakistan	387/9d	v England	5 wickets	Lahore	1961/62	Test 512
West Indies	526/7d	v England	7 wickets	Port of Spain	1967/68	Test 635
India	306/6d	v West Indies	10 wickets	Kingston	1975/76	Test 776
Australia	401/9d	v England	18 runs	Leeds	1981	Test 905
South Africa	248/8d	v England	2 wickets	Centurion	1999/00	Test 1483
Zimbabwe	422/9d	v India	7 wickets	Delhi	2000/01	Test 1515
West Indies	395/9d	v England	7 wickets	Manchester	2004	Test 1711
South Africa	451/9d	v Australia	8 wickets	Sydney	2005/06	Test 1780
England	551/6d	v Australia	6 wickets

Give us declared 1ts innings and won.

edit... I was thinking this is for declared 1st day, rather than innings. I wanted games won when declaring on the first day.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Declared 1st innings & lost test match

Bangladesh in Nz declared 595/8 lost vs Nz

Eng 393/8 in eng declared lost vs Aus last week

Declaring in the first innings of a Test and losing

Team	Score	Opposition	Margin	Ground	Season	Scorecard
Pakistan	387/9d	v England	5 wickets	Lahore	1961/62	Test 512
West Indies	526/7d	v England	7 wickets	Port of Spain	1967/68	Test 635
India	306/6d	v West Indies	10 wickets	Kingston	1975/76	Test 776
Australia	401/9d	v England	18 runs	Leeds	1981	Test 905
South Africa	248/8d	v England	2 wickets	Centurion	1999/00	Test 1483
Zimbabwe	422/9d	v India	7 wickets	Delhi	2000/01	Test 1515
West Indies	395/9d	v England	7 wickets	Manchester	2004	Test 1711
South Africa	451/9d	v Australia	8 wickets	Sydney	2005/06	Test 1780
England	551/6d	v Australia	6 wickets

England also declared in the 1st innings when we beat them in Wellington earlier this year

 

[Shri]

What the Aussies can learn from England and how they can target “forgettable” cricketer

An Aussie great says we can learn from the English.

www.sen.com.au

'Back it up': Ponting hits back at Robinson

The former Test captain has fired back at Ollie Robinson for his comments at Edgbaston, and questioned Ben Stokes’ insistence that England "aren't a results-driven team"

www.cricket.com.au

 

[Shri]

“Then the other bloke, he’s a forgettable cricketer.
“A fast bowler that is bowling 124 (kph) nude nuts and he’s got a mouth from the south.”
Ian Healy asked: “Who, Ollie Robinson?”
Hayden continued: “Someone like him, you can just go, ‘Brother, I’m coming at ya’.

...

But Ponting, who commentated on the thrilling clash for Sky Sports, took aim at Robinson after the Test.
"As I said after Ollie Robinson said what he said, this England cricket team hasn't played against Australia and they'll find out pretty quickly what playing Ashes cricket and playing against a good Australian cricket team is all about," Ponting told the ICC Review podcast.
"And if Ollie Robinson hasn't learned that already after last week, then he's a slow learner.
"Some of the things he had to say – I mean he even brought my name into it, which I felt was a little bit unusual, but for me it's water off a duck's back.
"If he is sitting back thinking about me, then no wonder he bowled like the way that he did in that game, if he's worried about what I did 15 years ago.
"He'll learn pretty quickly that if you're going to talk to Australian cricketers in an Ashes series, then you want to be able to back it up with your skills."

 

[Molehill]

It seems Robinson has managed to wind up the old Aussies more than the current ones.

Also worth remembering that he had better match figures than any Aussie seamer too, so his skills are kind of backing him up.

 

[Prince EWS]

“Then the other bloke, he’s a forgettable cricketer.
“A fast bowler that is bowling 124 (kph) nude nuts and he’s got a mouth from the south.”
Ian Healy asked: “Who, Ollie Robinson?”
Hayden continued: “Someone like him, you can just go, ‘Brother, I’m coming at ya’.

...

But Ponting, who commentated on the thrilling clash for Sky Sports, took aim at Robinson after the Test.
"As I said after Ollie Robinson said what he said, this England cricket team hasn't played against Australia and they'll find out pretty quickly what playing Ashes cricket and playing against a good Australian cricket team is all about," Ponting told the ICC Review podcast.
"And if Ollie Robinson hasn't learned that already after last week, then he's a slow learner.
"Some of the things he had to say – I mean he even brought my name into it, which I felt was a little bit unusual, but for me it's water off a duck's back.
"If he is sitting back thinking about me, then no wonder he bowled like the way that he did in that game, if he's worried about what I did 15 years ago.
"He'll learn pretty quickly that if you're going to talk to Australian cricketers in an Ashes series, then you want to be able to back it up with your skills."

Robinson has consistently trolled Australia by looking exactly like the sort of player they could make fun of while simultaneously actually having a great record against Australia even despite his team losing all the time.

If anything the record shows England should select a lot more absolute pricks who bowl at half-rat power like Robinson and less speculative Australian-style 'proper' fast bowlers.

This of course won't stop them lol'ing at Robinson when they win because most Australian fans and players are dumb and annoying. Their only saving grace is that England's fans and players are even dumber and even more annoying ever since Stokes took over the captaincy.

I'm pretty sure the Ashes should be illegal. Can both teams lose?

 

[Preed]

Can’t believe that Jacks has been put on standby for Ali if his finger had not healed.One trundler who can bat for another what hasDawson done to not be considered.A better bowler than both and he is no slouch with the bat.Stokes winning again with his slogger theory

 

[zaremba]

A great game of cricket, some crazy aspects to it for sure, but amazing entertainment. Congats to Australia for getting over the line. Well deserved victory.

 

[Shri]

Robinson has consistently trolled Australia by looking exactly like the sort of player they could make fun of while simultaneously actually having a great record against Australia even despite his team losing all the time.

If anything the record shows England should select a lot more absolute pricks who bowl at half-rat power like Robinson and less speculative Australian-style 'proper' fast bowlers.

This of course won't stop them lol'ing at Robinson when they win because most Australian fans and players are dumb and annoying. Their only saving grace is that England's fans and players are even dumber and even more annoying ever since Stokes took over the captaincy.

I'm pretty sure the Ashes should be illegal. Can both teams lose?

mate have a lie down

 

[Jfry]

He is to me. Own personal opinion. I like to go from the usual.

he initimidated England completely

Mitch Marsh is an ATG. Great bloke, and dominated vs England with bat and ball

 

[Prince EWS]

mate have a lie down

Excellent idea tbf.

 

[peterhrt]

edit... I was thinking this is for declared 1st day, rather than innings. I wanted games won when declaring on the first day.

There have been five first-day declarations in Tests. No wins resulted.

1949. England v New Zealand at Lord's. 3-day match. England 313-9. Next man in was Eric Hollies (as in Hollies Stand) who recorded more wickets than runs in both Test and first-class cricket. NZ 20-0 in remaining 15 minutes. Declaration was illegal as experimental law allowing declarations on first day of 3-day matches did not apply to this series. Match drawn.

1974. England v Pakistan at Lord's. Pakistan declared on 130-9. England 42-1 at close. Whole match played in poor weather. Drawn.

2013. India v Australia at Hyderabad. Australia declared on 237-9 with numbers 10 and 11 at the crease. India 5-0 in the remaining 3 overs. Lost by an innings.

2016. Australia v South Africa at Adelaide. Day/night match. South Africa 259-9, captain Faf du Plessis 118*, Shamsi 18*. Australia had 12 overs, during which they made 14-0. Lost by 7 wickets. This was another situation where the batsmen were scoring freely (39 run partnership from 5.5 overs).

2023. England v Australia at Edgbaston. England 393-8. Root 118* and Robinson 17* had added 43 in 7.2 overs. Australia 14-0 from 4 overs. Lost by 2 wickets.

 

[GoodAreasShane]

absolute pricks who bowl at half-rat power

Isn't that pretty much 75% of all county bowlers?

 

[honestbharani]

I'm pretty sure the Ashes should be illegal. Can both teams lose?

If Lord umpires, sure.

 

[grecian]

Robinson has consistently trolled Australia by looking exactly like the sort of player they could make fun of while simultaneously actually having a great record against Australia even despite his team losing all the time.

If anything the record shows England should select a lot more absolute pricks who bowl at half-rat power like Robinson and less speculative Australian-style 'proper' fast bowlers.

This of course won't stop them lol'ing at Robinson when they win because most Australian fans and players are dumb and annoying. Their only saving grace is that England's fans and players are even dumber and even more annoying ever since Stokes took over the captaincy.

I'm pretty sure the Ashes should be illegal. Can both teams lose?

nobodies stopping you from ****ing off and ignoring it mate.

 

[Ashes81]

“Then the other bloke, he’s a forgettable cricketer.
“A fast bowler that is bowling 124 (kph) nude nuts and he’s got a mouth from the south.”
Ian Healy asked: “Who, Ollie Robinson?”
Hayden continued: “Someone like him, you can just go, ‘Brother, I’m coming at ya’.

...

But Ponting, who commentated on the thrilling clash for Sky Sports, took aim at Robinson after the Test.
"As I said after Ollie Robinson said what he said, this England cricket team hasn't played against Australia and they'll find out pretty quickly what playing Ashes cricket and playing against a good Australian cricket team is all about," Ponting told the ICC Review podcast.
"And if Ollie Robinson hasn't learned that already after last week, then he's a slow learner.
"Some of the things he had to say – I mean he even brought my name into it, which I felt was a little bit unusual, but for me it's water off a duck's back.
"If he is sitting back thinking about me, then no wonder he bowled like the way that he did in that game, if he's worried about what I did 15 years ago.
"He'll learn pretty quickly that if you're going to talk to Australian cricketers in an Ashes series, then you want to be able to back it up with your skills."

I like Ponting but he's talking bollocks about Robinson.

He's had an outstanding start to his test career and performed decently in the first test, so I'd say he backed up his talking with his skills.

I'm not Robinsons biggest fan with his sending Khawaja off like he did and he probably is a bit of a knobhead, but he is allowed to say stuff in the media.

Also the way Ponting is talking, you'd think the Aussies hammered us. This was a game we should have won so instead of worrying about Robinson, he'd be better off concentrating on some of his sides problems.