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Michael Neser

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
Would you like to remind me how many tests England have won in Australia since then?
It's all about putting it together for a full series. No point turning up, playing well and walking away without the win.

Two of those series are void anyway (Covid, Sandpaper).
 

GoodAreasShane

Cricketer Of The Year
It's all about putting it together for a full series. No point turning up, playing well and walking away without the win.

Two of those series are void anyway (Covid, Sandpaper).
There is precisely zero evidence to suggest anything untoward was going in during 2017/18, and there is precisely zero evidence that any England cricketer possessed a heart any bigger than a pea in 2021/22

EDIT: I can't spell
 
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GoodAreasShane

Cricketer Of The Year
Anyway, in a vauge attempt to not escelate this nonsense any further, I still remember the time before Neser became the domestic beast he is today, genuinely did average in the middish 30s with the ball at one point. Was a little bit different as a bowler back then, half a yard quicker but without the level of skill he has now
 

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
There is precicely zero evidence to suggest anything untoward was going in during 2017/18, and there is precicely zero evidence that any England cricketer possessed a heart any bigger than a pea in 2021/22
There's something kind of ironic about spelling 'precisely' wrong twice.

But you're right about those tours. As Broad said, given the movement the Aussie bowlers were getting in the 2017/18 series, why on earth would they suddenly need to resort to using sandpaper in SA?
 

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
Anyway, in a vauge attempt to not escelate this nonsense any further, I still remember the time before Neser became the domestic beast he is today, genuinely did average in the middish 30s with the ball at one point. Was a little bit different as a bowler back then, half a yard quicker but without the level of skill he has now
True, let's get this back to Neser. In all seriousness, I watched the IPL yesterday and to my relatively untrained eye, Hazlewood didn't exactly look ready to be bowling 20 overs a day with a red ball. If he's not fit, is it a given that Neser is the back up to the other 3?
 

GoodAreasShane

Cricketer Of The Year
There's something kind of ironic about spelling 'precisely' wrong twice.

But you're right about those tours. As Broad said, given the movement the Aussie bowlers were getting in the 2017/18 series, why on earth would they suddenly need to resort to using sandpaper in SA?
Broad is clearly imagining things considering he barely got one pitched in his own half all series.

Actually that did genuinely annoy me at the time, I would have far rathered the Australian fast bowlers actually did pitch it up and try to get him out as opposed to making him hop around but giving away streaky runs in the process

As for the Neser question, he's almost certainly next beside the squad selected
 

Starfighter

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There's something kind of ironic about spelling 'precisely' wrong twice.

But you're right about those tours. As Broad said, given the movement the Aussie bowlers were getting in the 2017/18 series, why on earth would they suddenly need to resort to using sandpaper in SA?
Broad is doing this thing called 'lying'. Plain and simple. Also no-one questioned the SA bowlers getting early reverse in the '18 series, while ironically the sandpaper didn't produce any.
 

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
Only Ashes series that are void are 2005 (rampant ball tampering at a level never seen before or since) and Bodyline
The only ball tampering in 2005 was whichever dozy ****wit left a ball for McGrath to step on.

You can only void a series if there's proven ball tampering within 2 years after it or if it occurs during a pandemic.

I think you need to move on from Bodyline, that was nearly 100 years ago now.
 

Son Of Coco

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The only ball tampering in 2005 was whichever dozy ****wit left a ball for McGrath to step on.

You can only void a series if there's proven ball tampering within 2 years after it or if it occurs during a pandemic.

I think you need to move on from Bodyline, that was nearly 100 years ago now.
I'd describe the levels of incompetence England has shown in multiple tours to Australia in the last 12 years as an epidemic rather than a pandemic.
 

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
I'd describe the levels of incompetence England has shown in multiple tours to Australia in the last 12 years as an epidemic rather than a pandemic.
Well yeah, hard to disagree. But I can always watch Melbourne Day 1 2010 to cheer me up.

Pretty sure trescothick admitted to ball tampering in 2005 and that’s the series that should be voided.
Trescothick explained how he polished the ball, none of it was illegal at the time.
 

TheJediBrah

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The only ball tampering in 2005 was whichever dozy ****wit left a ball for McGrath to step on.
Do people actually think this in England? Wow. What do they think happened? It was a magic batch of balls that swung 3x as much as usual but only for England? The bowlers figured out a secret to reverse swing bowling that they then forgot immediately after the series and no one has ever rediscovered?

Never seen such levels of denial
 

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