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*Official* Yorkshire CCC racism crisis thread

Brook's side

International Regular
Rude awakening when one-eyed fans join up not realising their accepted truths are actually nationalistic ravings
Is this comment aimed at me?

I don't like Swann as a person, but I've never seen any suggestion that he retired due to allegations of racism.

It seems a stretch to say that saying that Swann retired due to body wear and tear rather than to avoid being outed as a racist is a "nationalistic raving".
 

TheJediBrah

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Is this comment aimed at me?

I don't like Swann as a person, but I've never seen any suggestion that he retired due to allegations of racism.

It seems a stretch to say that saying that Swann retired due to body wear and tear rather than to avoid being outed as a racist is a "nationalistic raving".
It was nothing to do with racism lol

He was just incredibly soft and gave up in the middle of a series he (and his team) were getting smacked in, blaming it on an injury

Exceptionally British of him
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
It was nothing to do with racism lol

He was just incredibly soft and gave up in the middle of a series he (and his team) were getting smacked in, blaming it on an injury

Exceptionally British of him
That's very unfair.

He didn't just give up, he made a very cold-eyed, professional calculation and pulled the plug at exactly the right time...
...to ensure he finished with a sub-30 bowling average. :ph34r:
 

Brook's side

International Regular
It was nothing to do with racism lol

He was just incredibly soft and gave up in the middle of a series he (and his team) were getting smacked in, blaming it on an injury

Exceptionally British of him
So the point being that Ballance retired because his team was getting smacked around?

His team was getting smacked around, so he blamed it on racism allegations?
 

TheJediBrah

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So the point being that Ballance retired because his team was getting smacked around?

His team was getting smacked around, so he blamed it on racism allegations?
Bro go back

I'm not saying anything to do with Ballance, I'm just talking about Swann. That was the other guy comparing them
 

Socerer 01

International Captain
Passing this on for you:

"Zimbabwe lost only 1 series out 4 since Ballance appeared for them and that was in tests against West Indies. at least get your facts right before making strawman arguments."

Hope this helps.
GAS meant Ballance retiring after he got his average back up to 40 like Swann did midway to protect his average from falling below 30

you were the one bringing up Zimbabwe being smacked around when nothing of that sort happened other than in that test
 

Brook's side

International Regular
GAS meant Ballance retiring after he got his average back up to 40 like Swann did midway to protect his average from falling below 30

you were the one bringing up Zimbabwe being smacked around when nothing of that sort happened other than in that test
JediBrah was the one who brought up Zimbabwe being smacked around (literally 2 posts above mine).

So get your facts straight, before making straw man criticisms.

I note your clarification on the averages point.
 

ataraxia

International Coach
The world record in the category of "doubling down like a doofus" has just been beaten by infamous forum poster Brook's side. He bet the record by managing to be unambiguously incorrect on four separate, consecutive points in the same discussion. Judges have congratulated him, noting it was an unprecedented feat, even in consideration that it was by a forum poster.
 

Brook's side

International Regular
Nah he was talking about Swann.
Actually, Yah.

Let's get this straight pal so that no wrongful accusations are made here, by you or others.

To get this into context, Ballance gave the following reason for retirement, "I no longer have the desire to dedicate myself to the rigours of professional sport and this would do Zimbabwe Cricket and the game itself a disservice, should I carry on". He said this 5 months after agreeing a 2 year contract to play for Zimbabwe. It has been noted by commentators that the decision has come in the wake of the the Rafiq scandal, and seems to be widely accepted that there is a connection between the Rafiq scandal and Ballance's retirement.

So first, and most importantly, it's all of you who are talking out of your asses. Not me.


In terms of this discussion, the following is to be noted, for your information:

1. Good Areas Shane said that Ballance was "doing a Swann" *
2. I said that Swann retired due to physical issues not due to racism allegations.
3. I was accused by JediBrah of "nationalistic ravings"
4. I said Swann has never been accused of racism
5. JediBrah said Swann retired due to being smacked around.
6. I queried JB on the relationship between being smacked around and racism allegations.
7. I was criticised for making a strawman argument and not getting my facts straight, because Zimbabwe was not being smacked around.


Hope this helps :thumbup1:

* This comment was made immediately after a comment about averages, but did not quote that comment and I had not made a connection between the two comments and assumed Shane's comment was in response to the OP.
 

Starfighter

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
The world record in the category of "doubling down like a doofus" has just been beaten by infamous forum poster Brook's side. He bet the record by managing to be unambiguously incorrect on four separate, consecutive points in the same discussion. Judges have congratulated him, noting it was an unprecedented feat, even in consideration that it was by a forum poster.
Actually genuinely laughed out loud at this one.
 

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