The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

[trundler]

Yes, Bumrah has actually lasted multiple tests at a time and put in more than 2 performances against top teams so should get in.

 

[The Sean]

I would have liked to see VVS bat at number 3 more often with Dravid further down the order. Maybe not in England, but certainly in India and Australia.

Nah, if there's one thing I can guarantee you it's that Laxman at 3 and Dravid down the order will never work...

 

[Victor Ian]

We haven’t really produced bowlers good enough to leave someone like Bumrah out tbh. If we had bowlers like Hazlewood and Gillespie, then they would probably be better options.

Gillespie got it together in the end. Hopefully Bumrah does the same. Hazelwood is a big disappointment. It's sad. He would be top dog if his body allowed.

If I'm picking an ATG team, if it's a squad, these injury prone guys get in. If it's not, and there's only 11, I think they don't. Bruce Reid should be a thought for Australia, but he's not.

 

[HookShot]

Nah, if there's one thing I can guarantee you it's that Laxman at 3 and Dravid down the order will never work...

India 2nd Innings (Following on)

BATTING	R	B	4s	6s	SR
Shiv Sunder Das	39	99	7	0	39.39
hit wicket b Gillespie
Sadagoppan Ramesh	30	43	6	0	69.76
c ME Waugh b Warne
VVS Laxman	281	452	44	0	62.16
c Ponting b McGrath
Sachin Tendulkar	10	23	2	0	43.47
c †Gilchrist b Gillespie
Sourav Ganguly (c)	48	81	8	0	59.25
c †Gilchrist b McGrath
Rahul Dravid	180	353	20	0	50.99
run out (SR Waugh/Kasprowicz)
Nayan Mongia †	4	10	0	0	40.00
b McGrath
Zaheer Khan	23	15	3	0	153.33
not out
Harbhajan Singh	8	6	1	0	133.33
not out
Extras	34	(b 6, lb 12, nb 14, w 2)
TOTAL	657/7d	178 Ov (RR: 3.69

 

[honestbharani]

India 2nd Innings (Following on)

BATTING	R	B	4s	6s	SR
Shiv Sunder Das	39	99	7	0	39.39
hit wicket b Gillespie
Sadagoppan Ramesh	30	43	6	0	69.76
c ME Waugh b Warne
VVS Laxman	281	452	44	0	62.16
c Ponting b McGrath
Sachin Tendulkar	10	23	2	0	43.47
c †Gilchrist b Gillespie
Sourav Ganguly (c)	48	81	8	0	59.25
c †Gilchrist b McGrath
Rahul Dravid	180	353	20	0	50.99
run out (SR Waugh/Kasprowicz)
Nayan Mongia †	4	10	0	0	40.00
b McGrath
Zaheer Khan	23	15	3	0	153.33
not out
Harbhajan Singh	8	6	1	0	133.33
not out
Extras	34	(b 6, lb 12, nb 14, w 2)
TOTAL	657/7d	178 Ov (RR: 3.69

I think you missed his joke.

 

[HookShot]

 

[bagapath]

Oh, and I also just realised you've not picked Neil Harvey anywhere!

Oops

Fourth Best Aussie XI

Langer & Lawry (Trumper & Hayden/ Simpson & Morris / Ponsford & Taylor)
I. Chappell (Bradman/ Ponting/ Hill)
M. Clarke (G. Chappell/ S. Smith/ Harvey)
Walters (Border/ S.Waugh/ McCabe)
Armstrong (Miller/ Noble/ Gregory )
Haddin + (Gilchrist/ Healy/ Marsh)
Benaud * (Warne, O'Relley, Grimmet)
Lee, Harris & McKenzie (Lillee, McGrath & Lindwall/ Davidson, Cummins & Spofforth/ Thomson, Johnson & Starc )

 

[bagapath]

Fourth Best English XI

Edrich & Cook (Hobbs & Hutton/ Sutcliffe & Grace/ Gooch & Boycott)
Graveney (May/ Barrington/ Gower)
Henderen (Compton/ Root/ Dexter)
Leyland (Hammond/ Pietersen/ Cowdrey)
Flintoff (Botham/ Stokes/ Rhodes)
Bairstow + (Knott/ Ames/ Prior )
Swann (Laker, Underwood, Verity)
Gough, Richardson, Broad (Trueman, Barnes & Snow/ Bedser, Loahmann & Anderson/ Willis, Tate & Statham )

 

[Starfighter]

Fourth Best English XI

Edrich

Which one?

 

[bagapath]

John

 

[Coronis]

Fourth Best English XI

Edrich & Cook (Hobbs & Hutton/ Sutcliffe & Grace/ Gooch & Boycott)
Graveney (May/ Barrington/ Gower)
Henderen (Compton/ Root/ Dexter)
Leyland (Hammond/ Pietersen/ Cowdrey)
Flintoff (Botham/ Stokes/ Rhodes)
Bairstow + (Knott/ Ames/ Prior )
Swann (Laker, Underwood, Verity)
Gough, Richardson, Broad (Trueman, Barnes & Snow/ Bedser, Loahmann & Anderson/ Willis, Tate & Statham )

May and Compton

 

[Adorable Asshole]

Dravid at 6 is a waste.

Nah it's amazing. Dev and Jadeja could play more freely knowing Dravid is at the other end. Plus he could bat at 3 when needed.

Dravid keeping is a bigger question mark

Better than Dhoni still.

 

[Bolo.]

Oops

Fourth Best Aussie XI

Langer & Lawry (Trumper & Hayden/ Simpson & Morris / Ponsford & Taylor)
I. Chappell (Bradman/ Ponting/ Hill)
M. Clarke (G. Chappell/ S. Smith/ Harvey)
Walters (Border/ S.Waugh/ McCabe)
Armstrong (Miller/ Noble/ Gregory )
Haddin + (Gilchrist/ Healy/ Marsh)
Benaud * (Warne, O'Relley, Grimmet)
Lee, Harris & McKenzie (Lillee, McGrath & Lindwall/ Davidson, Cummins & Spofforth/ Thomson, Johnson & Starc )

Lee gets a slightly worse rep on this site than he deserves.

But AUS have absolutely boss bowlers. Why is he in there? J Gill, Haze etc.

 

[Socerer 01]

Nah it's amazing. Dev and Jadeja could play more freely knowing Dravid is at the other end. Plus he could bat at 3 when needed.


Better than Dhoni still.

lol what

 

[bagapath]

May and Compton

meaning you wont have them as top options?

 

[bagapath]

fourth best indian XI

srikanth & m viay (gavaskar & sehwag/ merchant & rohit/ sidhu & gambhir)
m amarnath (dravid/ hazare/ pujara)
vengsarkar (tendulkar/ vishy/ umrigar)
rahane (kohli / laxman/ ganguly)
shastri * (kapil/ mankad/ jadeja)
more + (dhoni/ kirmani/pant)
irfan pathan (ashwin/ kumble/ harbhajan)
ghavri (bedi/ prasanna/ ishant)
yadav (bumrah/ zaheer/ shami)
doshi (chandra/ srinath/ gupte)

 

[Red]

What the general consensus on the Indian ATG xi these days?

Sehwag
Gavaskar
Dravid
Tendulkar
Kohli
Dhoni
Kapil
Jadeja
Ashwin
Shami
Bumrah

Others I consider are Chardra, Kumble, Engineer, Merchant, Hazare, Laxman and Srinath, but I think the above combo would be winners

 

[Coronis]

meaning you wont have them as top options?

No. May is overrated by writers of the period. And Denis Compton is about the most overrated HTB ever (and never gets called out on it)

 

[HookShot]

No. May is overrated by writers of the period. And Denis Compton is about the most overrated HTB ever (and never gets called out on it)

Never mind the writers when May’s cricketing contemporaries raved about him.…

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/tributes-are-testimony-to-great-batsman-1388706.html

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

What the general consensus on the Indian ATG xi these days?

Sehwag
Gavaskar
Dravid
Tendulkar
Kohli
Dhoni
Kapil
Jadeja
Ashwin
Shami
Bumrah

Others I consider are Chardra, Kumble, Engineer, Merchant, Hazare, Laxman and Srinath, but I think the above combo would be winners

Pant for Dhoni. Otherwise looks good. Harsh on Kumble but someone has to miss out.