The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

[HookShot]

I don’t think that your Australian team is very ‘alternate‘ with the exception of Bradman missing.

 

[Coronis]

I don’t think that your Australian team is very ‘alternate‘ with the exception of Bradman missing.

Alternate i.e different from the team Miller selected in 1977. We can’t help it if he didn’t pick Simpson Lawry or Davidson and that we’ve been lucky to have had so many ATGs since then.

 

[Red]

I don’t think that your Australian team is very ‘alternate‘ with the exception of Bradman missing.

It’s a team containing players not in Millers team innit?

 

[HookShot]

It’s a team containing players not in Millers team innit?

Yes of course. Not alternate as in pot, purple hair, second-hand-clothing, crystals, vegan and picking Arthur Mailey as the spinner.

 

[AndrewB]

Need to replace Larwood with (e.g.) Trueman.

 

[_00_deathscar]

He is only the 4th or 5th best allrounder of his generation, and averagewise is also worse than Axar, CDG, and Mayers and on a par with Green.

3rd at worst surely? Ashwin isn’t a true all rounder though a very handy bat.
I’m assuming Shakib and the Answer are 2. Who are the others?
Holder isn’t bette

 

[bagapath]

Fourth Best Aussie XI

Langer & Lawry (Trumper & Hayden/ Simpson & Morris / Ponsford & Taylor)
I. Chappell (Bradman/ Ponting/ Hill)
M. Waugh (G. Chappell/ S. Smith/ M. Clarke)
Walters (Border/ S.Waugh/ McCabe)
Armstrong (Miller/ Noble/ Gregory )
Haddin + (Gilchrist/ Healy/ Marsh)
Benaud * (Warne, O'Relley, Grimmet)
Lee, Harris & McKenzie (Lillee, McGrath & Lindwall/ Davidson, Cummins & Spofforth/ Thomson, Johnson & Starc )

 

[The Sean]

Fourth Best Aussie XI

Langer & Lawry (Trumper & Hayden/ Simpson & Morris / Ponsford & Taylor)
I. Chappell (Bradman/ Ponting/ Hill)
M. Waugh (G. Chappell/ S. Smith/ M. Clarke)
Walters (Border/ S.Waugh/ McCabe)
Armstrong (Miller/ Noble/ Gregory )
Haddin + (Gilchrist/ Healy/ Marsh)
Benaud * (Warne, O'Relley, Grimmet)
Lee, Harris & McKenzie (Lillee, McGrath & Lindwall/ Davidson, Cummins & Spofforth/ Thomson, Johnson & Starc )

I really like this. I've been doing a similar thing lately with my Aussie XIs going all the way down - a lot of my 4th XI is pretty similar to yours, albeit with a few small differences either way. I think the only areas I'd diverge from you significantly are in wicketkeeping (I've got Blackham, Oldfield, Tallon and maybe Grout all ahead of Haddin - though I accept Haddin is the best bat out of that lot) and pace bowling, where I reckon Turner, Johnston, McDermott, Gillespie and maybe Hazelwood rank ahead of those quicks you've picked.

 

[The Sean]

Oh, and I also just realised you've not picked Neil Harvey anywhere!

 

[Adorable Asshole]

Sehwag
Gavaskar
Amarnath
Tendulkar
Kohli
Dravid +
Dev
Jadeja
Kumble c
Shami
Bumrah

 

[Coronis]

Sehwag
Gavaskar
Amarnath
Tendulkar
Kohli
Dravid +
Dev
Jadeja
Kumble c
Shami
Bumrah

Dravid at 6 is a waste.

 

[Socerer 01]

Dravid at 6 is a waste.

Dravid keeping is a bigger question mark

 

[Victor Ian]

Is Bumrah a decent pick for an Indian ATG 11? I'm more interested in where do you draw the line on bowlers who are injury prone. At some stage you have to factor in that their high ceiling is countenanced by a fair chance of getting injured and not completing these hypothetical tests.

 

[Prince EWS]

50 off 21 balls for Shankar. Shardul gave him a bread and butter ball to execute the pull

Punished!

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Punished!

removed, for obvious reasons

 

[ZK$]

Is Bumrah a decent pick for an Indian ATG 11? I'm more interested in where do you draw the line on bowlers who are injury prone. At some stage you have to factor in that their high ceiling is countenanced by a fair chance of getting injured and not completing these hypothetical tests.

We haven’t really produced bowlers good enough to leave someone like Bumrah out tbh. If we had bowlers like Hazlewood and Gillespie, then they would probably be better options.

 

[HookShot]

Dravid at 6 is a waste.

I would have liked to see VVS bat at number 3 more often with Dravid further down the order. Maybe not in England, but certainly in India and Australia.

With Sehwag, VVS and Tendulkar in the top 4 India could have put the opposing bowlers under more pressure and perhaps won more Test matches than they did. As it stands India had to wait till Kohli came along before they had a real run of success.

 

[Socerer 01]

Is Bumrah a decent pick for an Indian ATG 11? I'm more interested in where do you draw the line on bowlers who are injury prone. At some stage you have to factor in that their high ceiling is countenanced by a fair chance of getting injured and not completing these hypothetical tests.

he's 7th on all time wickets list for Indian pace bowlers

the next best in terms of average with at least 30 matches played is Shami who is 5.5 worse

he isn't just a decent pick, he is a great one

 

[Flem274*]

Is Bumrah a decent pick for an Indian ATG 11? I'm more interested in where do you draw the line on bowlers who are injury prone. At some stage you have to factor in that their high ceiling is countenanced by a fair chance of getting injured and not completing these hypothetical tests.

IRL he plays when available. You pick your best team and deal with issues if they happen. It's how real life teams do it.

You'd be pretty mad if you were an Indian fan and India got dicked with a fully fit Bumrah running drinks.

 

[Socerer 01]

its not like there are a lot of better options ahead anyway