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Cricket stuff that doesn't deserve its own thread

TheJediBrah

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Remaining not out means giving up runs the not out batsman could have scored if they had more partners.

In order for your assertion to be correct, you would need to prove the increase in average from remaining not out is greater than the potential runs lost.

Batting average is the true batting average - it's runs divided by how many times the batsman is actually out.
We really need to sticky the thread from years ago explaining why having a lot of not outs doesn't mean your average is less representative of your performance or ability. Because apparently it's not as obvious as it should be.

I have a minor aneurysm every time I see "aVeRaGe bOoStEd bY nOt OuTs" or some such
 

honestbharani

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Neither RPI nor batting average, much like almost all other cricket stats, are an exact indication of how well a player played in a given game or how important a role they played. Like all other cricket stats, it has to be used in the right context.
 

peterhrt

U19 Captain
First-class cricket in New Zealand dates back to January 1864 (Otago v Canterbury at South Dunedin Recreation Ground, now known as Kensington Oval). Attempting another chain of those who played with or against one another, here are nine links to the present day:

Tim Southee (2007-23)
Chris Harris (1989-2009)
Stephen Boock (1973-90)
Ross Morgan (1958-77)
Merv Wallace (1933-61)
Reginald Read (1905-38)
Alec Downes (1888-1914)
Frederick Wilding (1882-1900)
Edward Stevens (1864-84)

Prolific Otago off-spinner Downes (311 wickets in 51 matches) has long overlaps with those immediately before and after him. But the 33 years between Wilding and Wallace appears too long for a single link.
 

peterhrt

U19 Captain
New Zealand XI, all born in the 19th century. Lowry is the only member of this team who played Test cricket.

Syd Hiddleston (Otago/Wellington)
Lancelot Hemus (Auckland)
Nessie Snedden (Auckland)
Rupert Worker (Auckland/Canterbury/Otago/Wellington)
Ces Dacre (Auckland)
Tom Lowry*+ (Auckland/Wellington)
Dan Reese (Canterbury)
Stan Brice (Wellington)
Arthur Fisher (Otago)
Alec Downes (Otago)
Ernest Upham (Wellington)
 
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trundler

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New Zealand XI, all born in the 19th century. Only Lowry played Test cricket.

Syd Hiddleston (Otago/Wellington)
Lancelot Hemus (Auckland)
Nessie Snedden (Auckland)
Rupert Worker (Auckland/Canterbury/Otago/Wellington)
Ces Dacre (Auckland)
Tom Lowry*+ (Auckland/Wellington)
Dan Reese (Canterbury)
Stan Brice (Wellington)
Arthur Fisher (Otago)
Alec Downes (Otago)
Ernest Upham (Wellington)
Grimmett was born in 1891 too.
 

peterhrt

U19 Captain
Grimmett was born in 1891 too.
Grimmett played his first nine first-class matches for Wellington, taking 22 wickets at 30. Then moved to Australia in 1914.

Four other New Zealanders born in the 19th century played Tests - Cyril Allcott, Fred Badcock, Matthew Henderson and Bert McGirr - but they were not included in the team above.
 
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peterhrt

U19 Captain
Get Sydney Smith in too?
He has a very good record for Auckland certainly, but only played in New Zealand towards the end of his career from the age of 37. Born in Trinidad, he probably belongs to West Indies though most of his cricket was in England.
 

honestbharani

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Is he really coming for commentary? He'd want to go better than he did in that video.
Yes, confirmed now.

Will be fun if he is picked as a replacement while he is travelling with the teams for commentary. CSK picked David Hussey that way once and he ended up being a game changer for them.
 

Victor Ian

International Coach
Dfuk! Nah **** off India. They did this on purpose to keep him from gainig english form in county and send him backwards with IPL poison before the TWC final. India goes too far sometimes. This is shameful levels of manipulating stuff to their advantage.
 

SteveNZ

Cricketer Of The Year
Dfuk! Nah **** off India. They did this on purpose to keep him from gainig english form in county and send him backwards with IPL poison before the TWC final. India goes too far sometimes. This is shameful levels of manipulating stuff to their advantage.
If only he could say no. Poor fella
 

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