Australia 2002 vs West Indies 1984

[Raz0r6ack]

The two strongest XI's from respective eras who played together.

Who wins a 5 Test Match series?

AUSTRALIA 2002​	WEST INDIES 1984​
Justin Langer​	Gordon Greenidge​
Matthew Hayden​	Desmond Haynes​
Ricky Ponting​	Richie Richardson​
Mark Waugh​	Viv Richards​
Steve Waugh (c)​	Larry Gomes​
Damien Martyn​	Clive Lloyd (c)​
Adam Gilchrist​	Jeff Dujon (wk)​
Shane Warne​	Malcolm Marshall​
Brett Lee​	Michael Holding​
Jason Gillespie​	Joel Garner​
Glenn McGrath​	Courtney Walsh​

 

[honestbharani]

Hard to see. Way I see it, both teams got 3 weak links.

Hayden, Mark Waugh and Brett Lee for Oz. Gomes, Logie, Dujon for Windies.

 

[Slifer]

The two strongest XI's from respective eras who played together.

Who wins a 5 Test Match series?

AUSTRALIA 2002​	WEST INDIES 1983​
Justin Langer​	Gordon Greenidge​
Matthew Hayden​	Desmond Haynes​
Ricky Ponting​	Viv Richards​
Mark Waugh​	Larry Gomes​
Steve Waugh (c)​	Gus Logie​
Damien Martyn​	Clive Lloyd (c)​
Adam Gilchrist​	Jeff Dujon (wk)​
Shane Warne​	Malcolm Marshall​
Brett Lee​	Andy Roberts​
Jason Gillespie​	Michael Holding​
Glenn McGrath​	Joel Garner​

I'd rather go with the core WI team that won 11 in a row. Specifically, the one that won in Australia:

Greenidge
Haynes
Richardson
Viv
Gomes
Lloyd*
Dujon +
Marshall
Holding
Garner
Walsh

 

[Godard]

Wi side. Wi side has better openers and number 3 clearly. Aus have the slightly better middle order(because of S.Waugh, others are more or less equally good) and clearly the better wk. Bowling wise, even tho WI lack a good spinner and Aus have the greatest of all, but WI’s bowlers are all ATGs, whereas Brett Lee and Gilespie aren’t. Plus also feel that while WI lacks a spinner, the express pacer Aus has is merely ok.

 

[Sunil1z]

Depends on venue . In Asian conditions, Aus are favourites because of Warne . In pace friendly conditions, WI are favourites

 

[duffer]

Warne and Gilchrist are huge difference makers here. I'd back Australia tbh

 

[Godard]

Depends on venue . In Asian conditions, Aus are favourites because of Warne . In pace friendly conditions, WI are favourites

Marshall and Holding have great records in SC tho(although Warne will be a bigger threat). So in SC conditions it will be a tough fight, but in pace friendly conditions WI are very likely to win.

 

[subshakerz]

Warne was never at his best against WI, even when Lara wasn't firing.

 

[Sunil1z]

Marshall and Holding have great records in SC tho(although Warne will be a bigger threat). So in SC conditions it will be a tough fight, but in pace friendly conditions WI are very likely to win.

McGrath + Gillespie also have good records in Asia.

So in Asian conditions it is 60:40 to Aus
In Pace friendly conditions it is 70:30 to WI

 

[subshakerz]

Marshall and Holding have great records in SC tho(although Warne will be a bigger threat). So in SC conditions it will be a tough fight, but in pace friendly conditions WI are very likely to win.

And Walsh too if he plays.

 

[subshakerz]

McGrath + Gillespie also have good records in Asia.

So in Asian conditions it is 60:40 to Aus
In Pace friendly conditions it is 70:30 to WI

In India, not in Pakistan unlike Marshall and Walsh.

On a flat SC wicket, WI will have a better chance.

 

[Godard]

McGrath + Gillespie also have good records in Asia.

So in Asian conditions it is 60:40 to Aus
In Pace friendly conditions it is 70:30 to WI

Sounds reasonable. Didn’t know Gillespie had a good record in Ind(33 wickets in 7 matches).

 

[Godard]

In India, not in Pakistan unlike Marshall and Walsh.

On a flat SC wicket, WI will have a better chance.

Yep, McGrath was actually meh in Pak. Marshall and Walsh were great wherever they played in SC.

 

[Sunil1z]

In India, not in Pakistan unlike Marshall and Walsh.

On a flat SC wicket, WI will have a better chance.

I believe Gillespie of 2004 would have been successful in Pak too if given opportunities. He had a very good tour to both IND and SL iirc.

 

[Godard]

I believe Gillespie of 2004 would have been successful in Pak too if given opportunities. He had a very good tour to both IND and SL iirc.

He had 10 wickets in 3 matches averaging 32 in that SL tour.

 

[Sunil1z]

He had 10 wickets in 3 matches averaging 32 in that SL tour.

Looks like he performed very well in IND only . Still believe he could be very effective in Asian conditions

 

[Sunil1z]

Yep, McGrath was actually meh in Pak. Marshall and Walsh were great wherever they played in SC.

That is because McGrath bowled on complete roads in 98 tour . Have you forgotten Taylor scored 334 in that series. See bowling average of Akram and Akhtar in same tour

 

[Godard]

That is because McGrath bowled on complete roads in 98 tour . Have you forgotten Taylor scored 334 in that series. See bowling average of Akram and Akhtar in same tour
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Second pitch a road, won’t say that others were.
Even in Ind, McGrath or Gillespie aren’t as good as Marshall/Walsh/Holding. Marshall and Holding took 30 and above wickets on dead wickets in the 83 tour, and Walsh is the best bowler to tour Ind.

 

[Sunil1z]

So basically for Aus to beat WI , Warne and Gilchrist have to be at their peak . Because in other departments WI lead Aus .

 

[Fuller Pilch]

I believe Gillespie of 2004 would have been successful in Pak too if given opportunities. He had a very good tour to both IND and SL iirc.

No, get the Jason Gillespie of 2006. He averaged 231 with the bat that year as well as 11.25 with the ball and did it in Asia. Easily the greatest allround year in cricket history.