Which team is currently the best, in 2023?

[subshakerz]

@honestbharani our friend @subshakerz has outdone himself today .

He is comparing IND of 2018-23 with , England of last 10 months and Aus of last 15 months. And since India have lost 4 series in last 5 years and Eng / Aus have lost only 1 series in last 10 months , so Aus/Eng are better ?

Hold your horses.

I am actually doing India a favor by extending it 2018 onwards since the makeup of the side hasn't changed like England and Australia. Otherwise their last one year or so has been pretty bad form wise away from home.

Otherwise let us decide a timeframe you want to judge India on.

 

[Sunil1z]

Hold your horses.

I am actually doing India a favor by extending it 2018 onwards since the makeup of the side hasn't changed like England and Australia. Otherwise their last one year or so has been pretty bad form wise away from home.

Otherwise let us decide a timeframe you want to judge India on.

And makeup of Aus has changed in last 4 -5 years .?

 

[subshakerz]

Yes, you got to compare teams for the same time period. If Ind 2018 is being, Aus and Eng should also be taken since 2018, an then it becomes clear Aus is clearly behind Ind.

We are trying to determine the best team NOW.

So you can look at form leading into the current sides as long as it is relevant.

Otherwise we should put NZ in contention too.

 

[Godard]

Dude all we are saying is compare teams for the same time frame(5 years or 1 year). Also Aus hasn’t done any better than Ind away from home in the last year.

 

[subshakerz]

And makeup of Aus has changed in last 4 -5 years .?

What is your timeframe to judge India then?

 

[Godard]

We are trying to determine the best team NOW.

So you can look at form leading into the current sides as long as it is relevant.

Otherwise we should put NZ in contention too.

Sure. But you started comparing Ind from 2018 with Aus today and Eng today. That’s why I used the 5 years measure.

 

[Godard]

What is your timeframe to judge India then?

Judge all teams on a five year basis on a more recent basis(1 year perhaps).

 

[subshakerz]

Dude all we are saying is compare teams for the same time frame(5 years or 1 year). Also Aus hasn’t done any better than Ind away from home in the last year.

I think captains matter.

Judging England from 2018 and reflecting that on the current side is stupid.

 

[Sunil1z]

What is your timeframe to judge India then?

India twice topped WTC points table
2018-21
2021-23

We don’t need your judgment. Our results speaks for itself

 

[Godard]

I think captains matter.

Judging England from 2018 and reflecting that on the current side is stupid.

Ind has also a captaincy change post last the SA tour.

 

[subshakerz]

Sure. But you started comparing Ind from 2018 with Aus today and Eng today. That’s why I used the 5 years measure.

I merely verbalized what I saw others posters do earlier in this thread. They were comparing India of the past with Stokes' hot streak. Hence I said 'So the teams to compare...' based on how I understood you all were doing.

 

[subshakerz]

India twice topped WTC points table
2018-21
2021-23

We don’t need your judgment. Our results speaks for itself

Quite the uppity fan, aren't you?

 

[Godard]

I think captains matter.

Judging England from 2018 and reflecting that on the current side is stupid.

Sure. But you can’t compare two sides, taking 5 years for one and only one year for another. And what has Aus done away from in the last one or 5 years that’s great or even good?

 

[subshakerz]

Ind has also a captaincy change post last the SA tour.

Yes. So perhaps the correct statement should be it's too early to judge Rohit's India.

 

[Godard]

I merely verbalized what I saw others posters do earlier in this thread. They were comparing India of the past with Stokes' hot streak. Hence I said 'So the teams to compare...' based on how I understood you all were doing.

Sure, but take comparable time periods. That’s all I’m saying.

 

[subshakerz]

Sure. But you can’t compare two sides, taking 5 years for one and only one year for another. And what has Aus done away from in the last one or 5 years that’s great or even good?

Australia I merely care about Cummins' stint as captain since he predecessor was much worse.

 

[subshakerz]

Sure, but take comparable time periods. That’s all I’m saying.

Hence why I asked to pick a timeframe for India we can agree on, before Sunilz got all touchy feely.

 

[Sunil1z]

Quite the uppity fan, aren't you?

Calls other uppity when claiming Aus are better despite Aus having lost last their 4 series to IND .

 

[subshakerz]

Calls other uppity when claiming Aus are better despite Aus having lost last their 4 series to IND .

Cummins Australia better than Rohit's India.

Outside of these conditions, clearly a better team.

 

[Sunil1z]

Hence why I asked to pick a timeframe for India we can agree on, before Sunilz got all touchy feely.

I am not touchy . It is you who are deluded and feel Aus loss to India doesn’t matter because they changed the captain.