Sunil1z
International Regular
Well Chopra and Prasad are fighting over KL Rahul . Atleast Kuldeep is much better player.Relax guys. Kuldeep ****ing Yadav is not worth fighting over..........
yet.
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Why the lack of left arm wristspinners throughout history ?
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Socerer 01
International Captain
can’t wait for the inevitable Kuldeep vs Ashwin threads 10-15 years into the futureRelax guys. Kuldeep ****ing Yadav is not worth fighting over..........
yet.
and we all know that the answer to that thread as always will be Ja……….
There was a good thread here on Sobers' bowling back in 2008. Link below.
Looking at this and other sources, it would appear that Sobers took around fifty Test wickets with wrist-spin. More than half of them were against India.
That would place him second behind Paul Adams for Test wickets.
Wardle's tally was probably in the thirties, including the odd surprise ball during a spell of finger-spin. He bowled Bill Watson with one of those at Sydney in 1955 before adopting regular wrist spin for the first time in the second innings. After that his back-of-the-hand style was mostly confined to the South African tour of 1956-57.
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Looking at this and other sources, it would appear that Sobers took around fifty Test wickets with wrist-spin. More than half of them were against India.
That would place him second behind Paul Adams for Test wickets.
Wardle's tally was probably in the thirties, including the odd surprise ball during a spell of finger-spin. He bowled Bill Watson with one of those at Sydney in 1955 before adopting regular wrist spin for the first time in the second innings. After that his back-of-the-hand style was mostly confined to the South African tour of 1956-57.
andruid
Cricketer Of The Year
Any left handed flickers?
Migara
International Coach
Iverson was the original.
Rangana Herath was the last, although he rarely used it.
SillyCowCorner1
Moooo
I'm pretty sure the number of SLAs coming out of Bangladesh that there will be at least one 'flicker', eh?
Migara
International Coach
Just forgot Akeil Hossein of West Indies.
Migara
International Coach
To pick up wickets in BAn, you don't need fancy balls. You runup and bowl wicket to wicket and variable spin and bounce will do the work for you.
Arachnodouche
International Captain
Surprised at so many ppl equating left arm leggies with right handed offies. It isn't only about the direction in which the ball is supposed to spin; there's more potential for turn, dip, bounce - more work on the ball basically - and overall deception with legspin.
Starfighter
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
And despite this it will generally be found that leg-spinners are more expensive and less effective most of the time.
The_CricketUmpire
U19 Captain
I always have time for left-arm wrist spinners, I used to bowl them myself when I played cricket before going on to become an umpire. It's difficult because there are more right-handers in world cricket (more right-handers in general throughout the world) and as a left-arm wrist spinner - you need to keep it tight...not a lot to work with in terms of you need to keep the ball outside off stump, anything on middle stump or worse and the ball turns down legside if bowling the leggie. Plus a ball is much more dangerous when turning away from the batsman - more opportunities to get a batter out when the ball is turning away.
As for Bevan, his bowling average in Test cricket was 26, not bad for a part-timer.
The_CricketUmpire
U19 Captain
Whilst his Tests stats as a bowler aren't flash, he only played a handful of Test matches and played in the wrong era of Australia cricket because Warne and MacGill were ahead of him. He would be playing Test cricket for Australia if he played nowdays. Also he was a handy lower order batsman too - averaged 20 in ODI cricket, 26 in Test cricket and 35 in First-Class cricket, he was a better batsman then Warne and MacGill. So overall in that period he was peobably the third best wrist spinner in Australia.
Also a side note - he also holds the record for the highest individual score in 1st Grade WA Premier cricket - 285 in 2001.
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Perth 1st grade side Bayswater Morley was spanked out of contention for this season's first grade final single-handedly on the weekend by Western Warrior discard Brad Hogg who belted a record-breaking 285 runs
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Leading first-class wicket-takers among this type of bowler:
George Tribe 1378 wickets @ 20
Jack Walsh 1190 @ 24
Compton 622 @ 32
Fleetwood-Smith 597 @ 22
Johnny Martin 445 @ 31
Paul Adams 412 @ 32
Shamsi 334 @ 26
Inshan Ali 328 @ 28
Sandakan 283 @ 26
Kline 276 @ 27
Those with more than a hundred wickets, but less than two hundred, include Brad Hogg, David Sincock, Kuldeep Yadav, Bevan and Katich. Also Sobers and Wardle when they bowled in this style. There may be others.
To succeed with this type of bowling it has usually been necessary to have a good googly, and most of these bowlers were difficult to pick.
Wardle would have finished with the lowest average, but a high proportion of his wickets came during a single season in South Africa. He was more accurate than most but apparently did not come off the pitch as quickly as those who bowled wrist-spin regularly. This was part of the reason he was rarely asked to bowl it in England.
George Tribe 1378 wickets @ 20
Jack Walsh 1190 @ 24
Compton 622 @ 32
Fleetwood-Smith 597 @ 22
Johnny Martin 445 @ 31
Paul Adams 412 @ 32
Shamsi 334 @ 26
Inshan Ali 328 @ 28
Sandakan 283 @ 26
Kline 276 @ 27
Those with more than a hundred wickets, but less than two hundred, include Brad Hogg, David Sincock, Kuldeep Yadav, Bevan and Katich. Also Sobers and Wardle when they bowled in this style. There may be others.
To succeed with this type of bowling it has usually been necessary to have a good googly, and most of these bowlers were difficult to pick.
Wardle would have finished with the lowest average, but a high proportion of his wickets came during a single season in South Africa. He was more accurate than most but apparently did not come off the pitch as quickly as those who bowled wrist-spin regularly. This was part of the reason he was rarely asked to bowl it in England.
The_CricketUmpire
U19 Captain
First Class
Dave Mohammed: 233 @ 27.11
Brad Hogg: 181 @ 40.51
David Sincock: 159 @ 36.87
Kuldeep Yadav: 134 @ 29.76
Beau Casson: 123 @ 43.04
Michael Bevan: 119 @ 44.89
Simon Katich: 107 @ 35.30
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Michael Rippon 124 @ 34.41
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Migara
International Coach
I bowled right arm leg breaks, and I found left handers very enjoyable to bowl at. It only needed change of perspective of your bowling. Against left handers , your stock ball has to be top spinner or leg spinner with plenty of overspin, producing dip and bounce and threatening outside edge. If you can bowl cross seam leggies, you can then easily slip in the normal legspinner, which will pitch little fuller and spin back. If you have bowled your topspinners well, batsman will now be on back foot shaping to cut everything. Normal lagbreak will spin back, keep low (because it is fuller) and most of the time beat the cut to the sumps.
It is mirror image for left arm wristies.