IVA Richards or Shane Warne? - The 'Aura' factor.

[trundler]

that’s a very hard one.

Both Richards and Warne heard that very often

 

[Migara]

Viv's become surprisingly docile with age (last twenty years really) but I doubt Warne's fire would've ever gone out. In hindsight it feels preordained he had to go early.

Viv's arrogance was to prove that African culture could be as good as that of whites. Once he proved it by dominating for 15 years, he was contempt with it, and there was no need to be aggressive.

 

[BazBall21]

Viv is apparently quiet off the field. Warne the opposite there. There are accusations of Viv bullying umpires.

 

[Migara]

Viv was never left deflated and scratching his head not knowing what to do. Warne was often doing it when he played India, and few times against SL and WI as well.

 

[Slifer]

When the Wisden cricketers of the century came out the Don, Hobbs and Sobers were a given. Warne kinda made sense seeing that he supposedly made spin ***y again bla bla bla. But Viv I honestly didn't expect. I would've expected Hadlee, Imran or even Sachin at the time. But oh no Viv was the 5th person chosen. For me, he earned it through his charisma, aura, swag or whatever. So yeah Viv over Warne in this respect.

 

[BazBall21]

When the Wisden cricketers of the century came out the Don, Hobbs and Sobers were a given. Warne kinda made sense seeing that he supposedly made spin ***y again bla bla bla. But Viv I honestly didn't expect. I would've expected Hadlee, Imran or even Sachin at the time. But oh no Viv was the 5th person chosen. For me, he earned it through his charisma, aura, swag or whatever. So yeah Viv over Warne in this respect.

English media loved Warne. Lillee got a lot of votes in that too.

 

[Chrish]

Warne didn’t have “aura”. He had an on-field personality in the same manner as Lara..

 

[smash84]

Viv, easily

 

[GotSpin]

Viv Richards’ off field influence was enormous. SA basically said they would pay him literally whatever he wanted to join a rebel tour, in the knowledge if he went they’d jag most of the first XI. He knocked them back, his team mates knew he knocked them back and the side essentially stayed together.

Warne’s off field influence was really playing poker, having *** scandals and in retirement rooting Liz Hurley.

so yeah, Warne for sure

Warne was extremely influential in growing the big bash in its infancy to be fair

 

[ashley bach]

Who matched Viv’s swag? Come on man.

The swagger Viv had when he came out to bat is like no other I've ever seen in cricket, can still see it now if I shut my eyes.
There was absolutely no doubt who the boss was and who'd be the one dictating play when he got to the wicket.
Then there was the never ending chewing gum...

 

[slippy888]

Virendar Shewag is the closet batsman to Viv Richards in terms of confidence

 

[ashley bach]

Warne was extremely influential in growing the big bash in its infancy to be fair

f u c k you Marlon , yeah f u c k you Marlon.
Thinking back on this incident, was this just fixed as a medicine to help hype the BBL? Strange play from Marlon to come up with if he had chosen
to deliberately pull opponents jerseys.

 

[trundler]

Viv was never left deflated and scratching his head not knowing what to do. Warne was often doing it when he played India, and few times against SL and WI as well.

That's because Viv never had to face Raju or Russell Arnold.

 

[Kirkut]

The last time my father watched a proper game of cricket was back in 2003 World Cup, prior to that he had been following cricket since the late 70s. He still follows cricket today but doesn't watch any games.

He told me that while the Aussie side was mentally tougher, the Windies team of the 80s gave goosebumps, watching them play cricket itself was a privilege.

 

[CricAddict]

The last time my father watched a proper game of cricket was back in 2003 World Cup, prior to that he had been following cricket since the late 70s. He still follows cricket today but doesn't watch any games.

He told me that while the Aussie side was mentally tougher but the Windies team of the 80s gave goosebumps, watching them play cricket itself was a privilege.

Actually, everyone identify themselves with the teams they followed actively when they passionately watched cricket during childhood/teenage. I still consider a lot of 90s cricketers as my favorites and can't comprehend current cricketers being talked as better than them.

 

[Kirkut]

Actually, everyone identify themselves with the teams they followed actively when they passionately watched cricket during childhood/teenage. I still consider a lot of 90s cricketers as my favorites and can't comprehend current cricketers being talked as better than them.

He personally rated West Indies above Australia among ATG sides but also opined that the Aussies could win games from dire situations, especially ODIs. He met Marshall at Kanpur in 1983, a very emotional and moody person according to his observations

 

[Burgey]

He met Marshall at Kanpur in 1983, a very emotional and moody person according to his observations

Marshall played at Waverley in Sydney Grade cricket in the 80s for a season and bowled to a mate of mine who nicked one to the keeper after playing and missing about a dozen times and, in the finest Australian tradition didn't walk. Not out.

Malcolm's reaction and language were reported as being "colorful" including the attention-gaining phrase "next ball marn, hand to head..."

It wasn't, though by the time Marshall got to the wicket my mate said he was crouching so low that if Marshall had bowled a reasonably low full toss it would have gone over his head and hit the top of the stumps. Instead he said it was (understandably) the fastest bouncer he'd ever faced in his life.

 

[Kirkut]

That's because Viv never had to face Raju or Russell Arnold.

I don't see him looking too comfortable against Abdur Rehman on a UAE pitch

 

[Godard]

I think Viv and Warne both had a massive impact on their disciplines. Warne, as everyone knows revived the dying art of leg spin and brought it on to centre stage again. But Viv also had a massive impact on batsmen, both through his dominating mindset and the attacking batsmanship he practiced. There were batsmen who aimed to have a psychological effect on the bowlers( Ian Chappell, Miandad etc), and batsmen who were seen in awe by bowlers. But bowlers never physically and mentally feared batsmen like this before. Richards walking in without a helmet, never payed any respect to any bowler or looked like wanted to. The best bowlers in the world, Imran, Hadlee, Lillee had to be beaten into submission, not merely overcome. So one is the psychological aspect of his domination: the delayed entrance, the relentless gum chewing, no helmet etc. Ian Chappell has gone to the extent of saying that Richards sometimes changed games by simply coming to the crease. And other aspect is his attacking batsmanship, especially how he batted against pace. He got across the line, when you were supposed to measured in your approach, hit pacers above their head consistently when this was not believed to be possible, due to magnificent reflexes(Ian Chappell has also talked about this). He altered the course of batsmanship, because of his complete disregard of how the game was being played or to any convention. Due to his attacking batsmenship, he transformed ODI cricket more than any player too, as its greatest player during the infancy of the format: hitting sixes became more and more common, playing aggressively, scoring at higher rates etc.

 

[Migara]

Warne, as everyone knows revived the dying art of leg spin and brought it on to centre stage again.

BS. Qadir was captivating crowds with his leg spin since late 70s. Qadir was preceded by a plethora of Pakistani wrist spinners, and Chandrashekar. Then Mushtaq Ahmed and Kumble debuted. Warne debuted couple of years later. Warne may have revived legspin bowling in Australia, but the world is a much bigger place.