Is Jadeja an ATG test cricketer?

[ZK$]

Since 2014, he’s taken 335 wickets at an average of 21.58 (away + neutral average of 23.92). He’s definitely a tier above Philander and Jadeja lol.

 

[h_hurricane]

This thread should not even exist. He has been plucking catches like below ever since he was just 3.

 

[Coronis]

This thread should not even exist. He has been plucking catches like below ever since he was just 3.

Jeez thats some embarrassing pronunciation.

 

[h_hurricane]

Jeez thats some embarrassing pronunciation.

Also tells that Tony Greig was a quick learner.

 

[Coronis]

Also tells that Tony Greig was a quick learner.

I had the feeling he was more throwing out different ones hoping someone would tell him when he got it right.

 

[Arachnodouche]

If Sangakkara can be ATG (lol) because of dem *** stats then Jadeja definitely qualifies as an ATG all-rounder.

 

[honestbharani]

Very very good , but has he been held back a bit in his quest to being an ATG ?

I think so , I don't think India really maximised his ability because of the luxury he brings to the table as a three dimensional cricketer .. Certainly in the last few years he's been flourishing with more responsibility as a batsman ..I think that could have happened a lot sooner in his career.. He's that good there shouldn't even be a rotation policy between Ashwin and Jadeja away from home .

You will see this is a point I have been making since about 2015 here.

 

[Pup Clarke]

Easily an ATG

 

[subshakerz]

Philander has a better away average and a much higher percentage of away tests. Most notably he doesn’t average 34 in Australia. Big Vern ftw.

He averages 30 in Australia thanks to a green Hobart deck in 2016.

Anderson actually has an entire series winning performance in 2010.

 

[subshakerz]

Anderson is very bad in Aus, NZ, SA but adequate in Asia. Philander was excellent in NZ, Aus, and England but very bad in Asia.

Philander is much more condition dependent than Anderson and is outright bad in Asia.

 

[subshakerz]

If Sangakkara can be ATG (lol) because of dem *** stats then Jadeja definitely qualifies as an ATG all-rounder.

Sanga has more than double the games than Jadeja and plenty of quality away performances.

The bar for ATG is embarassingly low for you guys if some with 60 games in the modern day, mostly at home, can be called an ATG.

 

[Victor Ian]

As the number of games grows so does the chance of good performances. Sanga was meh in Australia but managed one good innings that dragged up his average.

 

[Burgey]

It's not his fault he hasn't always been picked away from home, but you'd think those days are done now anyway given his batting these days.

 

[subshakerz]

As the number of games grows so does the chance of good performances. Sanga was meh in Australia but managed one good innings that dragged up his average.

Doesn't take away from the fact that Jadeja hasn't played enough to be called an ATG.

 

[Coronis]

He averages 30 in Australia thanks to a green Hobart deck in 2016.

Anderson actually has an entire series winning performance in 2010.

Since you couldn’t tell, that post was tongue in cheek.

 

[subshakerz]

Since you couldn’t tell, that post was tongue in cheek.

Gotcha.

 

[Burgey]

Anderson actually has an entire series winning performance in 2010

Woah woah woah. This is like saying Ian Bell had a series-winning 2005 or Marcus Harris held the Ashes for Aus in 2019.

He was part of a team which won the Ashes but was his cod ordinary self then too.

 

[subshakerz]

Woah woah woah. This is like saying Ian Bell had a series-winning 2005 or Marcus Harris held the Ashes for Aus in 2019.

As in, he played a defining role in the series victory like Flintoff 2005.

Anderson took 24 wickets in that Ashes and played a key role in all three wins.

 

[Coronis]

He averages 30 in Australia thanks to a green Hobart deck in 2016.

Anderson actually has an entire series winning performance in 2010.

Also just saying Philander has never lost a series in Australia

 

[h_hurricane]

Also just saying Philander has never lost a series in Australia

The answer to this is Jadeja as well. In fact, he has never lost a series against Australia. Played 4, won 4. Clean slate.