GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
Incredible how people don't understand you aren't imprisoned for a not guilty verdict. Good job none of the people who bang on about it work in the legal profession
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Players living rent free in people's minds
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Daemon
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The point is he should've been found guilty for shattering a dude's eye socket over some name calling.
Hales as well.
Eng team would be in tatters atm if that had happened.
Unfortunately as it stands the ***** are now practicing this ahead of a Test match.
We Are England Cricket on Instagram: "⬆️ North 🆚 South ⬇️ The lads prepared for the last Test with a six-hitting competition in Karachi! 💥 #pakveng #englandcricket"
307K likes, 551 comments - englandcricket on December 16, 2022: "⬆️ North 🆚 South ⬇️ The lads prepared for the last Test with a six-hitting competition in Karachi! 💥 #pakveng #englandcricket".
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GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
He wasn’t even tried for assault.The point is he should've been found guilty for shattering a dude's eye socket over some name calling.
Hales as well.
Eng team would be in tatters atm if that had happened.
Unfortunately as it stands the ****s are now practicing this ahead of a Test match.
We Are England Cricket on Instagram: "⬆️ North 🆚 South ⬇️ The lads prepared for the last Test with a six-hitting competition in Karachi! 💥 #pakveng #englandcricket"
307K likes, 551 comments - englandcricket on December 16, 2022: "⬆️ North 🆚 South ⬇️ The lads prepared for the last Test with a six-hitting competition in Karachi! 💥 #pakveng #englandcricket".
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
This IMO is a good breakdown of the Stokes trial, pretty balanced:
inews.co.uk
If you read it you'll say they have no idea why Hales wasn't charged, something I couldn't answer when recently discussed.
Ben Stokes trial: Why didn’t the gay couple testify in court? Plus nine other questions answered
Given the ongoing social and tabloid media commentary and speculation, it seems that some general pointers on the law in this area would assist
inews.co.uk
If you read it you'll say they have no idea why Hales wasn't charged, something I couldn't answer when recently discussed.
Coronis
International Coach
He should’ve been though, no?
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
The article I posted suggests there's a strong argument for it but that given the self-defence verdict was accepted for Affray it's not unreasonable to think it could well have been for assault (though not definite).
I'm no legal expert but the fact the blokes he injured were tried alongside him for affray weakens the argument for an assault charge in my book as it suggests a fight moreso than a one-sided attack.
Daemon
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That's nicely explained, thanks.This IMO is a good breakdown of the Stokes trial, pretty balanced:
Ben Stokes trial: Why didn’t the gay couple testify in court? Plus nine other questions answered
Given the ongoing social and tabloid media commentary and speculation, it seems that some general pointers on the law in this area would assist
If you read it you'll say they have no idea why Hales wasn't charged, something I couldn't answer when recently discussed.
So with a bit more fairness and less incompetency, both Stokes and Hales would've been charged and potentially convicted of assault. Instead they're ruining Test cricket and winning world cups.
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Shri
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He's at least in a good place in my head. Would have had to move if he lived in the crumbling head of Trott or Swann during an away ashes?
subshakerz
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Yeah I am not a huge fan of Kallis and on top of that he gets overrated here too which is doubly annoying.
Though the SA team with Smith et all was my favorite to watch.
Though the SA team with Smith et all was my favorite to watch.
Socerer 01
International Captain
if people think Kallis is overrated on here wait till they go on to r/cricket which thinks Kallis is the equivalent of a Tendulkar talent with the bat and a 3rd/4th pacer with the ball and the greatest all rounder of all time
subshakerz
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Kallis' case on this forum and even outside is pretty much based on raw batting and bowling averages only.
ataraxia
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Isn't it based a significant proportion on his prolificness. i.e., he has a very similar number of runs to Ponting/Dravid but also 300 wickets to boot.
There have been plenty of different arguments made in the last few months besides his averages, made by people who know a lot about him. You have just chosen to disregard them.
subshakerz
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Nobody will question that Kallis is a better cricketer than Dravid, and Ponting too.
Shady Slim
International Coach
i mean i rate kallis but this ponting slander will not stand tbh
subshakerz
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I responded to a lot of arguments as you are aware.
I should say that primary argument has always been his raw averages which to me is a silly one. There were secondary arguments, like him batting at no.4 versus no.5 compared Waugh, but other arguments like him batting for a fragile top order were used to defend him rather than present his case.