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What qualifies as a Wasted Talent?
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RossTaylorsBox
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Reckon I would've been an ATG, but then I read that women cricketers were getting paid more money so I quit playing forever.
jcas0167
International Regular
Yeah, Hick and Ramprakash aren't wasted talents in the way Jesse Ryder or Luke Pomersbach were. That said, they probably fall in a sizeable category of players who could have done far better with more consistent selection. Duncan Fletcher in his book wrote that if he'd been coach in the 90's he would have never dropped them. Hick actually did have a fairly successful period between 93-96, but always seemed to be dropped if he had a few failures. Atherton declaring on him on 98* was a dick move too.
SillyCowCorner1
Moooo
Adrian Barath….
The dude made a 100 on debut in Australia!
The dude made a 100 on debut in Australia!
Coronis
International Coach
Dude was just a crap batsman.
SillyCowCorner1
Moooo
yeah, an absolute crap batsman.
He was making tons of runs before he made his international debut.
He was making the same volume of runs as Kraigg was during his youth years
Coronis
International Coach
Bloke averaged 32 in FC. **** batsman
SillyCowCorner1
Moooo
FYI, 32 average in WI cricket is Bradmanesque
Migara
International Coach
Mental toughness is a talent.
Their talent was good enough for FC, but not for Tests. So they are not wated talents. They were ordinary with talents at highest level. Wasted talent is when talented players do things serially stupid and then fade away.
The better would be
Asif
Amir
Kambli
are good examples.
Lillian Thomson
Hall of Fame Member
In some ways Ian Botham wasted his talent. He’s a candidate for the most gifted all around cricketer ever, but when he passed the natural peak of human fitness instead of working at it in the gym and in the nets he was off shagging barmaids and smoking exotic tobacco.
He always had a bit of a weakness outside the off stump against genuinely quick bowling. Whether net sessions would have helped we'll never know as he didn't bother trying.
He always had a bit of a weakness outside the off stump against genuinely quick bowling. Whether net sessions would have helped we'll never know as he didn't bother trying.
Migara
International Coach
Sobers, Imran and Miller did all of that and plus kept their fitness. Wasted talent nah. Lacking important quality of work ethics, yea.In some ways Ian Botham wasted his talent. He’s a candidate for the most gifted all around cricketer ever, but when he passed the natural peak of human fitness instead of working at it in the gym and in the nets he was off shagging barmaids and smoking exotic tobacco.
He always had a bit of a weakness outside the off stump against genuinely quick bowling. Whether net sessions would have helped we'll never know as he didn't bother trying.
trundler
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"Yes but no"
Lillian Thomson
Hall of Fame Member
I’m beginning to think there is no definition of wasted talent. If Botham’s lack of work ethics is just a character flaw the same is true of anyone in terms of technique or temperament.
Anything anyone achieved is exactly what they were capable of achieving because that’s who they were, warts and all.
Anything anyone achieved is exactly what they were capable of achieving because that’s who they were, warts and all.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Lack of work ethics definitely can lead to wasted talent.I’m beginning to think there is no definition of wasted talent. If Botham’s lack of work ethics is just a character flaw the same is true of anyone in terms of technique or temperament.
Anything anyone achieved is exactly what they were capable of achieving because that’s who they were, warts and all.
Blenkinsop
U19 Captain
Jimmy Ormond. Talented bowler who could swing it both ways with no change of action, terrible attitude.
Samit Patel and Mark Cosgrove. They wanted to represent their countries, but not as much as they wanted to eat all the food.
I also think England have wasted much of David Willey's talent by batting a genuine all-rounder at number 10.
Samit Patel and Mark Cosgrove. They wanted to represent their countries, but not as much as they wanted to eat all the food.
I also think England have wasted much of David Willey's talent by batting a genuine all-rounder at number 10.
