Calm_profit
State Vice-Captain
Sachin Tendulkar and Brian Lara and I think Ponting gets underrated due to his record in India which is fine.
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Most overrated cricketer
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honestbharani
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We all do. His name is @TheJediBrah
Everton Seymour
U19 Debutant
Kane Williamson ... I know it's a bit controversial but a lot of people overlook his record away from home against the top sides ..
His averages against the top 6 sides of his era in their backyard/ UAE :
Australia - 42.85
England - 30.53
South Africa - 21.17
India - 33.53
UAE - 64.70
Sri Lanka - 26.71
I mean you do expect better from someone whose rated as highly as Williamson is.
His averages against the top 6 sides of his era in their backyard/ UAE :
Australia - 42.85
England - 30.53
South Africa - 21.17
India - 33.53
UAE - 64.70
Sri Lanka - 26.71
I mean you do expect better from someone whose rated as highly as Williamson is.
Gob
International Coach
It's not at all controversial here. He is usually rated alongside Mahela and Sehwag here
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Viv doesn't have a stats issue. Statistically, he covered all his bases, 40 plus average everywhere, high SR ahead of his time, perhaps the greatest year of batting performance ever, and then multiple high return series against great bowlers. Point is you can make a case for him being in the highest company.
Lillee has a stats issue since he never performed in Asia or WI.
mr_mister
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Viv's doesn't have stat issues per say to be considered an ATG bat, it's just for the reputation he has(in most people's argument for best after Bradman with Sachin, Sobers, Hobbs, Lara etc) he doesn't really have the numbers to back it up. Scored 5 tons in his last 40 tests averaging low 40s, still useful to the team but that's a pretty long time to have less than ATG level output. Basically turned into Ian Bell by the end
Adorable Asshole
International Regular
Lara and Tendulkar are perfectly rated here and by serious cricket fans. Sachin gets overratd by the hero-worshipping indian crowd tho.
Ponting on the other hand averaged 11.5 during his peak in India. Can't be the best with such a record.
I always thought Gary Sobers was over rated in that his record doesn't justify the tag of the greatest all rounder ever.
He was a truly brilliant batsman and a fine bowler but 230 odd wkts at 34 a piece isn't an all time great record.
A brilliant cricketer - absolutely - but a better all rounder than Kallis, Imran or Botham - I'm not so sure.
He was a truly brilliant batsman and a fine bowler but 230 odd wkts at 34 a piece isn't an all time great record.
A brilliant cricketer - absolutely - but a better all rounder than Kallis, Imran or Botham - I'm not so sure.
Socerer 01
International Captain
Brett Lee in tests
Sehwag in ODIs
Sehwag in ODIs
Gob
International Coach
2001 was before his peak
Adorable Asshole
International Regular
Slifer
International Captain
Imran and Kallis are there with him (and possibly Miller) but Botham no. Sobers and Imran cancel each other out with their stronger and better weaker traits but Sobers was a much much better fielder so edge to Sobers for me.
TheJediBrah
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Ponting barely played in India during his peak. The one test he played in 2004 was a lottery dustbowl where batting skill was pretty much irrelevent, that was the game Clarke took 6 for 9
Adorable Asshole
International Regular
Not a fan of Botham but he unlike Khan, Kallis, and Sobers gave more consistent all-round performances.
Botham has 5 times both scored a century and took a fifer in a match. Kallis 2, Sobers 2 and Khan 1.
Meanwhile Ashwin has 3 times
I wonder why.
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TheJediBrah
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Do you really? There was only 1 tour, and he missed all bar 1 match with a broken thumb. Not some big conspiracy haha
Prince EWS
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It's definitely Lillee historically. Trueman, Ponting and Viv also up there.
It's Starc if we're talking current players, but obviously not on CW. If anything CW might slightly under-rate him, but mostly just because of TJB and trundler skewing it so much.
I nominate Stokes if we're talking CW-only. Fight me @GIMH.
EDIT: And Ajaz ****ing Patel. A great example of not playing enhancing one's reputation more than playing would.
It's Starc if we're talking current players, but obviously not on CW. If anything CW might slightly under-rate him, but mostly just because of TJB and trundler skewing it so much.
I nominate Stokes if we're talking CW-only. Fight me @GIMH.
EDIT: And Ajaz ****ing Patel. A great example of not playing enhancing one's reputation more than playing would.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Warne gets rated the best bowler ever which is crazy.