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Group 2 (Bangladesh, India, Pakistan, South Africa, Zimbabwe, Netherlands)

Stefan9

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Saf can feel hard done by but i don't think Zim would have batted first if they had an inkling of this kind of weather. it's always an advantage to field first in such truncated encounters so that it may not be such a bad idea to do the toss again if necessary keeping in mind that it will be a 9 over game now.
Uhm Zim knew there could be rain around or didn't they look up or see that the previous game had a the odd very short break.
 

cnerd123

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What was the DLS par score for South Africa to chase if they reduced the 9 over game to a 5 over game?

If it was under 51, then I agree that they should have just been awarded the win. That's common sense. Bit ridiculous if that didn't happen tbh.

If it was more than 51, and SA were just ahead of the 3-over par score but had not crossed the 5 over target yet, then yea abandoned is the right move. You have to account for the (incredibly unlikely) possibility that SA score 0 runs in the next 2 overs and finish below the target.
 

Stefan9

International Debutant
What was the DLS par score for South Africa to chase if they reduced the 9 over game to a 5 over game?

If it was under 51, then I agree that they should have just been awarded the win. That's common sense. Bit ridiculous if that didn't happen tbh.

If it was more than 51, and SA were just ahead of the 3-over par score but had not crossed the 5 over target yet, then yea abandoned is the right move. You have to account for the (incredibly unlikely) possibility that SA score 0 runs in the next 2 overs and finish below the target.
They were ahead of the 5 over par score.
That is the argument from duckworth-lewis that it should be changed if you are ahead of the 5 over par score and not punished for the overs not completed.
 

cnerd123

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5 over par score is a different thing to the 5 over target. The par score changes with wickets lost.

The creators of DLS are saying once the target is eclipsed, then a winner can be decided if it's not possible to play the minimum overs in the second innings.
 

honestbharani

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5 over par score is a different thing to the 5 over target. The par score changes with wickets lost.

The creators of DLS are saying once the target is eclipsed, then a winner can be decided if it's not possible to play the minimum overs in the second innings.
This is what I meant in my earlier post.
 

cnerd123

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So I just put this game through the official DLS software and can confirm SA were screwed.

Had they started the run chase with just 5 overs to bat, their target score to win was 48

Had they taken the field after the rain interruption with 2 more overs to play, their target score would have been revised to 45

In either case, they had scored more than the target score. So to deny them 2 points on a technicality is pretty dumb.

Though you could argue it was unfair on the bowling team that conditions were so bad to play in that they couldn't even bowl 5 overs, and therefore the match shouldn't count.
 

Victor Ian

International Coach
I don't get why they cant have a make up day. You don't need to bother about crowds or any of that ****. The event was lost for the crowds and tv views, but you could still let the teams have their right to earn 2 points at any ground anywhere and not be disadvantaged by who randomly cops a rain out.
 

Daemon

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Any posters near the SCG able to shed light on whether SA are about to be screwed again?
 

Daemon

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It's quite ridiculous that Finch and Bavuma are selected much less captains of their respective sides. Pretty weak from the selectors/boards and it's putting someone elses career on hold.
 

straw man

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2/1 after 1 over looked a terrible start for SA in a match that might lose overs to rain.
Amazing that 16 balls later they're 42/1.
 

Prince EWS

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It's quite ridiculous that Finch and Bavuma are selected much less captains of their respective sides. Pretty weak from the selectors/boards and it's putting someone elses career on hold.
They're only selected because they're captains, but they're hardly Brearley anyway.
 

Niall

International Coach
It's quite ridiculous that Finch and Bavuma are selected much less captains of their respective sides. Pretty weak from the selectors/boards and it's putting someone elses career on hold.
Have a giggle at the silly IPL men who spend money on Finch, played for 9 teams and stunk it out for all of them. :laugh:
 

Daemon

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Was pissing down a bit earlier. Not sure I rate the chances of the game finishing, awful day.
Same for the next game?

I can understand why it makes sense from a cost perspective to have games back to back at the same ground. Personally don't have an issue with it.
 

Burgey

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It's raining on God's Peninsula atm, about 5kms from the hallowed turf.

As I exclusively predicted a couple of weeks ago, this tourney is going to smashed by the prevailing weather patterns on the eastern seaboard, and the games which do go ahead will have lower scores than would otherwise be the case if there wasn't a La Nina event going on.

Which is why Ireland only made 150 against England, as opposed to the 260 they would have made in a drier summer against such dross opposition.
 

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