Kapil Dev vs Shakib Al Hasan

[Gob]

Hadlee
Cowie
Bond
Wagner
Southee
Boult
B Taylor
Jamieson

(so Kapil def not in top 8)

Then perhaps 2 from this list (I wrote "might not" as it is marginal).

Collinge
Nash
Motz
Cairns
possibly Doull

lol no. Only nz bowler who is definitely better than Kapil is Hadlee. Bond should have been if he had not been made out of glass. Rest are medium pace trundlers.

Kapil has 430 wickets under 30 ffs bowling mostly in India and one of the few from that era to stand up to WI. Even entertaining the thought that Simon ****ing Doull a better bowler is a disgrace

 

[Fuller Pilch]

lol no. Only nz bowler who is definitely better than Kapil is Hadlee. Bond should have been if he had not been made out of glass. Rest are medium pace trundlers.

?????
Cowie was the best seamer in the world of his era and the modern day 4 have all been ranked in the world's top 5 in recent years. Kapil wasn't better than anyone in the top 8, and the others are marginal. Furthermore Kapil was a medium pace trundler. He was a swing bowler (very similar to Doull in many ways but slower).

Kapil averaged 42 in NZ, 40 in Pakistan, 39 in England, and 37 in SA. Surprisingly did well in Aus and WI.

 

[Gob]

?????
Cowie was the best seamer in the world of his era and the modern day 4 have all been ranked in the world's top 5 in recent years. Kapil wasn't better than anyone in the top 8, and the others are marginal. Furthermore Kapil was a medium pace trundler. He was a swing bowler (very similar to Doull in many ways but slower).

Kapil averaged 42 in NZ, 40 in Pakistan, 39 in England, and 37 in SA. Surprisingly did well in Aus and WI.

He has 45 wickets!

As for the 2nd bolded part- and Kapil wasn't? He was ranked #2 (higher than any of those 4 at any point) and consistently present in the top 5


Are we sure we are comparing Kapil to Southee, Boult and Wagner here because you make it sound like its Marshall, McGrath and Steyn

 

[trundler]

Fuller Pilch had been posting far too reasonably for far too long. It was bound to happen.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

He has 45 wickets!

So? Mike Procter only had 41!

 

[sunilz]

NZ record is comparable to Bangladesh against AUS+IND+SA+ENG since Kane debuted (last 12 years)
But some kiwi supporters would make you believe that they are the new WI of 80s.

 

[Gob]

So? Mike Procter only had 41!

thus not as great as Kapil Dev

Let me settle this

 

[Lillian Thomson]

I sense Slippy could be plotting a Kapil Dev v Richard Collinge thread.

 

[_00_deathscar]

Hadlee
Cowie
Bond
Wagner
Southee
Boult
B Taylor
Jamieson

(so Kapil def not in top 8)

Then perhaps 2 from this list (I wrote "might not" as it is marginal).

Collinge
Nash
Motz
Cairns
possibly Doull

Simon Doull? What?

 

[Athlai]

Simon Doull is definitely not the worst bowler he listed there

 

[Burgey]

?????
Cowie was the best seamer in the world of his era and the modern day 4 have all been ranked in the world's top 5 in recent years. Kapil wasn't better than anyone in the top 8, and the others are marginal. Furthermore Kapil was a medium pace trundler. He was a swing bowler (very similar to Doull in many ways but slower).

Kapil averaged 42 in NZ, 40 in Pakistan, 39 in England, and 37 in SA. Surprisingly did well in Aus and WI.

This is a very bold post.

In a Yes, Prime Minister kind of bold way

 

[Athlai]

Kapil finally getting exposed as a Flintoff/Cairns tier player rather than someone as good as Hadlee or Stokes.

 

[Aritro]

Really? His bowling is awful. Genuinely turgid dross. The bloke gets decks tailor made for him.

Daily reminder SOK > Al Hasan.

I mean, everything you've said in this thread is complete bollocks, obviously. But the bolded bit is also complete bollocks. Which is not surprising because everything else you've said is complete bollocks. He's had about 6-8 rank turners to bowl on in his career, and he's laboured on more bore-draw type roads than rank turners.

 

[Burgey]

Get in the bin, idiot. If you think Al Hasan is a better cricketer than Kapil Dev then you've got your head up your arse. I realise he's the one very good cricketer Bangladesh has produced thus far, but he's not in the other bloke's league ffs.

This web site is replete with posters who are well across Bangladesh cricket and they've said many times the side deserves the pumping it gets away from home because the decks they prep for the team at home are so one sided they leave them completely unprepared to play in any other conditions. But apparently it's all made up because the golden boy isn't having his balls gently cupped by everyone in this thread.

Jog on ffs.

 

[Aritro]

Get in the bin, idiot. If you think Al Hasan is a better cricketer than Kapil Dev then you've got your head up your arse. I realise he's the one very good cricketer Bangladesh has produced thus far, but he's not in the other bloke's league ffs.

This web site is replete with posters who are well across Bangladesh cricket and they've said many times the side deserves the pumping it gets away from home because the decks they prep for the team at home are so one sided they leave them completely unprepared to play in any other conditions. But apparently it's all made up because the golden boy isn't having his balls gently cupped by everyone in this thread.

Jog on ffs.

Hahaha, would you look at the state of this preening, hysterical little ****wit trying to flex and convince himself he's something other than a laughing stock.

I'll type this slowly for you so you can understand. I didn't say he was better than Dev. The pitches leave them unprepared because they're slow and don't bounce. Not because they're often rank turners - we've had those for maybe 3 or 4 two-match series over the last 15 years.

And I won't be jogging on. I'll be here as long as you are, you little ****ing worm.

 

[Burgey]

"Look at this preening idiot" says bloke whose opening gambit is "Derp a derp everything you've said in this thread is complete bollocks." Honestly, I've blown my nose in tissues with thicker skin than you.

You're now admitting the decks they prep are junk and made for them, like we've been saying. So by your own measure that's not complete bollocks.

And now you're saying he isn't better than Dev, which is the position I've adopted in this thread too. So that isn't complete bollocks either, by your own measure.

But apparently everything I've said in the thread is somehow "complete bollocks" because you come here predisposed to butt hurt for whatever reason. You've literally come in here wanting to kicking **** off, so don't bitch about it when others oblige.

What a low altitude flier. "Everything you've said is complete bollocks"*

*except the bits I now concede I agree with. Woeful.

 

[Aritro]

"Look at this preening idiot" says bloke whose opening gambit is "Derp a derp everything you've said in this thread is complete bollocks." Honestly, I've blown my nose in tissues with thicker skin than you.

You're now admitting the decks they prep are junk and made for them, like we've been saying. So by your own measure that's not complete bollocks.

And now you're saying he isn't better than Dev, which is the position I've adopted in this thread too. So that isn't complete bollocks either, by your own measure.

But apparently everything I've said in the thread is somehow "complete bollocks" because you come here predisposed to butt hurt for whatever reason. You've literally come in here wanting to kicking **** off, so don't bitch about it when others oblige.

What a low altitude flier. "Everything you've said is complete bollocks"*

*except the bits I now concede I agree with. Woeful.

I haven't "conceded" anything I didn't say in the original post, you halfwit. I said there 6-8 rank turners and the rest were not. He's played 41 matches at home.

You've characterised it as "Al Hasan just dumps it into the pre-prepped rough", "bowls decent finger spin by dumping it into a moon crater sized rough prepared just for him". So, see if you can concentrate and follow the equation in the next sentence. He's bowled on a small number of pitches that fit that description, and another 30+ that don't. So unless you meant he's bowled into a moon sized crater a very small number of times, your characterisation of him is wrong.

You also said "he's a myth", "he's a joke of a cricketer", "Shakib Al Hasan being in the top 20 test all rounders of all time let alone the top half dozen is an abomination", "You’d like to play against him for a living every week". I say that's complete bollocks.

And saying something is "complete bollocks" isn't tantamount to wanting to start a fight. But it did seem to prickle your thin skin enough to kick off in response.

And ****ing lol at the idea of me "bitching" about you kicking off. Nah, I just saw you flexing and decided to remind you you're pissant and a laughing stock. It should happen to you more often tbh.

 

[Burgey]

Then keep at it by all means. Whatever brings peace to your fragile little mind.

Are you his cousin or something? How do you maintain any semblance of balance with a chip that big on your shoulder? You bring in this dross replete with all these contradictions, then don't like being called out on it.

You did concede things. You started off by saying everything I said in the thread had been complete bollocks, then agreed with me about Kapil, for one thing. Then you conceded the decks they prepare leave them unprepared to play away.

They're concessions. Of course they are. How can't you see that? If you say "Everything X has said here is bollocks" then turn around and agree with something they've said, then you've conceded that point. As Benny Elias once said "It's not rocket surgery."

 

[Athlai]

 

[Burgey]

I wasn't yelling at anyone tbf until Misery started up.