Viv Richards vs Sachin Tendulkar

[subshakerz]

He needed 20 in the last innings to ensure a 50 average and scored 60. There is a youtube clip on this innings.

He was very conservative through the innings, seemingly aware of the landmark. Or someone else made him aware. A very un-Viv like innings !

I think these benchmarks definitely matter to elite players. Lara's average fell below 50 and that was a big motivator for him to do well in that 2001 SL series. Inzi was averaging above 50 until his last test when it dropped I believe, I am sure it stings. It is one of the reasons I think it would be a tragedy for a batsman of Kohli's class to end averaging sub-50.

 

[Johan]

The jump between Viv and the next greatest batsman of his generation was much bigger compared to that between Tendulkar and Lara/Ponting. Especially in terms of optics and attacking aesthetics for that era. Only natural for players that played with Richards to rate him the undisputed best among contemporaries.

No , what have you done , some idiot is gonna come and mention Gavaskar and turn it into Viv vs Gavaskar.

 

[Slifer]

I think these benchmarks definitely matter to elite players. Lara's average fell below 50 and that was a big motivator for him to do well in that 2001 SL series. Inzi was averaging above 50 until his last test when it dropped I believe, I am sure it stings. It is one of the reasons I think it would be a tragedy for a batsman of Kohli's class to end averaging sub-50.

Worrell had a 50 plus average from test #1 and it fell below 50 in his very last test...damn shame.

 

[Chrish]

Viv >>> SRT

SRT never advocated for his bowlers with such passion.

 

[harsh.ag]

Viv >>> SRT

SRT never advocated for his bowlers with such passion.

He perjured himself for them iirc

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Both of them were clearly better than Lara IMO.

Viv, Tendy, Sobers and Hobbs are the strongest contenders for 2nd best batsman of all time..

For me, Viv > Tendy > Sobers

Not really sure where to rank Hobbs as I personally find it impossible to compare him with the others.

Its Sobers Vs Sachin Vs Hobbs.

Viv slightly below these 3, as most people select Sobers above Viv as the best WI batsman.

 

[mr_mister]

I agree with that pretty much ^ as people generally put Hobbs slightly above Hutton and Hammond too

Though I think Lara has a tiny argument for being considered level with Sachin despite losing points for consistency, he had those mammoth scores

The 277, the 375, the 400 and the 501, Lara had a god mode like nobody else, hence him being the FC and test high score holder which I think is such a cool feather in his cap

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

The jump between Viv and the next greatest batsman of his generation was much bigger compared to that between Tendulkar and Lara/Ponting. Especially in terms of optics and attacking aesthetics for that era. Only natural for players that played with Richards to rate him the undisputed best among contemporaries.

1.Sobers, Crowe.. Etc rated Gavaskar higher.
2. Absence of Barry Richards

Ponting and Chappell never been considered as 2nd only to Bradman Category. ( on Global level )

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

No , what have you done , some idiot is gonna come and mention Gavaskar and turn it into Viv vs Gavaskar.

You did it first ?

 

[honestbharani]

Both of them were clearly better than Lara IMO.

Lara very clearly better than bothin tests, for me.

 

[Anil]

Lara very clearly better than bothin tests, for me.

bradman very clearly better than all three in tests, for me.

 

[Chrish]

Its Sobers Vs Sachin Vs Hobbs.

Viv slightly below these 3, as most people select Sobers above Viv as the best WI batsman.

I have considered Viv as the best batsman of covered wicket era as far back as I can remember once I became a somewhat knowledgeable cricket fan.

What sets him apart from the rest is he made the bowlers fearful of bowling to him rather than vice versa. He is probably the only player in whole history who would stare right back at the pace bowler with hostility and sometimes even mockery when they tried to bounce him. I doubt any other players were that courageous. Richards’ gaze at 1:20 is what I am referring to.

 

[Migara]

There were few other batsmen who intimidated fast bowlers not to drop short, even when they were among the quickest in the history of fast bowling. Inzi, de Silva and Ponting didn't stare back, but kept hooking and pulling merrily. That stare is the one that makes Viv unique.

 

[Gob]

There were few other batsmen who intimidated fast bowlers not to drop short, even when they were among the quickest in the history of fast bowling. Inzi, de Silva and Ponting didn't stare back, but kept hooking and pulling merrily. That stare is the one that makes Viv unique.

Even if they did stare, It would not be as clear given they wore helmets

 

[_00_deathscar]

Even if they did stare, It would not be as clear given they wore helmets

They weren’t staring, they were just squinting through the helmets

 

[social]

Its Sobers Vs Sachin Vs Hobbs.

Viv slightly below these 3, as most people select Sobers above Viv as the best WI batsman.

I have never seen anyone rate Sobers or Sachin above Viv

Happy to be proven wrong

Viv was the most dominant I have ever seen

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

I have never seen anyone rate Sobers or Sachin above Viv

Happy to be proven wrong

Viv was the most dominant I have ever seen

I have never seen anyone rate Sobers or Sachin above Viv

Happy to be proven wrong

Viv was the most dominant I have ever seen

When cricinfo conducted " Best after Bradman " 2 out of 5 jury members selected Sachin, 2 Sobers ( Crowe selected Sobers after short listing best of every generation and Gavaskar was the best of 70s and 80s) , 1 Hobbs.

Also, Most CW members will go for Sobers ahead of Viv.. I think.

 

[Coronis]

I have never seen anyone rate Sobers or Sachin above Viv

Happy to be proven wrong

Viv was the most dominant I have ever seen

CW's Top 50 Test Batsmen. 2022 Results

Firstly, my thanks @gftw for initiating the voting thread and thanks to all who contributed votes and comments. With voting and comments dwindling, it was felt we should stop at a final Top 50. I have added stats to the list as a matter of interest and for discussion points and here is the...

www.cricketweb.net

for a more detailed breakdown of how many people voted Tendulkar and Sobers above Viv:

CW's Ranking of Batsmen (Tests)

I came across a thread of this being done about 15 years ago, so thought it would be interesting to do it again to see how the results may change. The goal of this exercise will to come up with an official CW list of test batsmen. I will probably go till at least #25, but possibly more. I'll...

www.cricketweb.net

 

[CricAddict]

CW's Top 50 Test Batsmen. 2022 Results

Firstly, my thanks @gftw for initiating the voting thread and thanks to all who contributed votes and comments. With voting and comments dwindling, it was felt we should stop at a final Top 50. I have added stats to the list as a matter of interest and for discussion points and here is the...

www.cricketweb.net

for a more detailed breakdown of how many people voted Tendulkar and Sobers above Viv:

CW's Ranking of Batsmen (Tests)

I came across a thread of this being done about 15 years ago, so thought it would be interesting to do it again to see how the results may change. The goal of this exercise will to come up with an official CW list of test batsmen. I will probably go till at least #25, but possibly more. I'll...

www.cricketweb.net

Actually, he didn't have to go outside this very thread to find one. 24 have voted for Sachin over Viv.

 

[Coronis]

Actually, he didn't have to go outside this very thread to find one. 24 have voted for Sachin over Viv.

And thats before we even get into the Ravindra Kallis votes!