New Zealand fast bowlers who are 'definitely' better than Kapil Dev

[Athlai]

He needs to play two matches in a row and actually bowl on pitches suited to cricket.

If Bond played as many matches as Kapil he'd have 630 wickets. Obv he has injury issues but if he never played in the ICL and got banned he'd have probably ended up with 150 to 200 wickets.

 

[Bahnz]

Bond was also hampered not only by injury but also the cricketing politics that surrounded the ICL. We lost years of his career in the most frustrating way.

Bond's body just wasn't up to tests. If it hadn't been for the ICL I think he probably would've retired from tests a couple of years earlier than he ultimately did.

 

[srbhkshk]

If Bond played as many matches as Kapil he'd have 630 wickets. Obv he has injury issues but if he never played in the ICL and got banned he'd have probably ended up with 150 to 200 wickets.

If he played as many matches as Kapil he would have made a world record of human with most fractures during his lifetime and would have had maybe 25 extra wickets to what he has now.

 

[ZK$]

In 1979, Kapil took 74 wickets @ 23/48 in 17 matches. Then in 1983, he took 75 wickets @ 23/46 in 18 matches.

 

[Johan]

Genuine question, would you say Cowie is also better than Anderson?

I don't really care about the Bond thing, Kapil could do whatever Kapil did 10 kph quicker if he was okay getting injured for 9 out of 10 matches he had to play,

Jimmy's last 327 wickets are at 21.66 a piece with 53 SR and 2.4 ER , no comparasion with the few test wonders of Newzealand or Kapil for that matter , only Hadlee is his superior in bowling in both NZ and Ind.

 

[Athlai]

Bond's body just wasn't up to tests. If it hadn't been for the ICL I think he probably would've retired from tests a couple of years earlier than he ultimately did.

It was probably one of his best periods for fitness and his performances on both ends of the ban were phenomenal.

You're right that he probably wouldn't have played all 17 Tests but 10-12 was achievable and it'd have been all he needed to hit 150 Test wickets

 

[srbhkshk]

Jimmy's last 327 wickets are at 21.66 wickets wirh 53 SR and 2.4 ER , no comparasion with the few test wonders of Newzealand or Kapil for that matter.

Kapil has 434 wickets at an average of 0 once I filter his stats for only the deliveries where he got wickets.

 

[Johan]

Kapil has 434 wickets at an average of 0 once I filter his stats for only the deliveries where he got wickets.

Jimmy has 650+ wickets at an average of 0 once I filter his stats for only the deliveries where he got wickets.

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

i love how 2 earnest mfers wrote 5000 word essays and pilch just goes "kiwis were better in england lol"

that's gotta be a combined 60 minutes of post writing rekt in one 5 second line. just beautiful.

It is genuinely hilarious

 

[srbhkshk]

Jimmy has 650+ wickets at an average of 0 once I filter his stats for only the deliveries where he got wickets.

so stop filtering.

 

[trundler]

If Bond played as many matches as Kapil he'd have 630 wickets. Obv he has injury issues but if he never played in the ICL and got banned he'd have probably ended up with 150 to 200 wickets.

'would've'

Aunty, balls, uncle etc. I don't think Bond is being treated unfairly because he didn't hit an arbitrary number. He just didn't have a full career and never dealt with the challenges associated with that. His home average of 19 is as meaningless as his away average of 33 (excluding Zimbos) because of samplesizelol. Kapil played 16 tests in a single year as the lone pacer.

Edit: I didn't see the post above noting he had years where he played more actually.

 

[Athlai]

Half of Dev's wickets are from draws where the opposition fell asleep from boredom at the other side.

 

[Johan]

so stop filtering.

I am stating Jimmy has an insane 8-9 year peak , you're coping about someone having a peak better then the whole career of cowie.

 

[Flem274*]

Bond isn't better than Chatfield ffs.

imagine actually thinking this. who hurt you?

 

[TheJediBrah]

Is this the same simulation in which 29 average Bevan isn't weak against the short ball

Why you leaning so hard into this bit, not funny and makes you look dumb tbh

 

[Johan]

Bond is like Graeme pollock but for bowling , everyone who saw him bowl knows he is incredible.

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

Bond was a cop and Dev went into the army, both points which should count against them.

 

[Flem274*]

Bond revisionism makes me wonder how hard the narrative would swing on Bumrah in 10 years if the injury he had around test 20 and 80 wickets or so knocked him out.

"Bumrah isn't even better than RP Singh ffs"

 

[Johan]

yup , Elephant hunting is where great fast bowlers go never mind.

 

[trundler]

Why you leaning so hard into this bit, not funny and makes you look dumb tbh

No I find it genuinely hilarious the confidence with which you assert that random shield cricketer would've been ATVG at least when guys like Blewett, Bevan, Elliott and Hayden v1 bombed so hard. It's legit FP or Stephen bad.