Mankads

[TheJediBrah]

This is very straightforward. The entire 41.16 section will be moved to the section on runouts in a few days as well.

I think we've established that the actual legality isn't the issue most people are arguing over

 

[Prince EWS]

I think we've established that the actual legality isn't the issue most people are arguing over

Yeah the reason no-one is talking about the laws is because no-one is arguing the umpire made the wrong decision lol.

 

[Days of Grace]

Why not just make it known that the non striker has received an official warning, similar to an umpire giving a warning to a bowler running on the pitch?
The bowler can request that the warning be given. From that point, the possibility of mankading is open and everyone will be aware of it.

Until that point it shouldn’t be an option.

 

[Aritro]

In almost 300 games I was never 'Mankaded' or even threatened/warned, But then that possibly explains why I was run out so frequently. I never backed up enough.

A young chap on my U/12s team Mankaded someone and got an absolute red-faced bollocking from our coach, who was also the umpire, for doing so which ended with him addressing all eleven fielders on our team and declaring, "And I never want to see any of you doing that again." He gave it not out.

I've never been run out like that myself, which is just as well because I'm usually halfway down the pitch by the time the ball has hit the bat to try and compensate for being a slow, unathletic ****.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Why not just make it known that the non striker has received an official warning, similar to an umpire giving a warning to a bowler running on the pitch?
The bowler can request that the warning be given. From that point, the possibility of mankading is open and everyone will be aware of it.

Until that point it shouldn’t be an option.

excellent idea IMO

 

[Xix2565]

The issue I have with warnings is that we literally never see it happen for any other form of dismissals, even flukey nonsensical **** like deflected catches, stumpings on off balance people, the ball rolling over to gently knock a bail off or stepping on the stumps. Like everyone knows that all of that can happen to get people out, but apparently getting out as a non-striker is a step too far. I would have more time for this if people weren't so hypocritical about what should get warnings and what shouldn't.

 

[Shady Slim]

Why not just make it known that the non striker has received an official warning, similar to an umpire giving a warning to a bowler running on the pitch?
The bowler can request that the warning be given. From that point, the possibility of mankading is open and everyone will be aware of it.

Until that point it shouldn’t be an option.

i still don't like it; i just don't get why the batter gets a freebie for this illegal thing?

i'd like a warning and do over every time i edge a short wide ball to the keeper

 

[cnerd123]

Yeah the reason no-one is talking about the laws is because no-one is arguing the umpire made the wrong decision lol.

it's good that everyone agrees that it's the right call

the Laws clearly say any attempt to steal a run is unfair. So clearly what the non striker is doing is against the Spirit of Cricket, and any action the bowler takes to counter that is just.

 

[Chrish]

The problem is she basically unequivocally stated they are "lying". Which i think is a bit rich for a person who was not there to say. And it does grate coz it's obvious there is more likely a chance the person on the field knew what went on better than someone who was not.

She is a captain and hence the voice of the team. I am sure she asked the player involved before making that comment. She doesn’t need to be on the field to make that remark.

 

[ashley bach]

The issue I have with warnings is that we literally never see it happen for any other form of dismissals, even flukey nonsensical **** like deflected catches, stumpings on off balance people, the ball rolling over to gently knock a bail off or stepping on the stumps. Like everyone knows that all of that can happen to get people out, but apparently getting out as a non-striker is a step too far. I would have more time for this if people weren't so hypocritical about what should get warnings and what shouldn't.

That's because those other forms of dismissals are true forms of dismissal, so why would you hear about them in a warning.

 

[honestbharani]

Why not just make it known that the non striker has received an official warning, similar to an umpire giving a warning to a bowler running on the pitch?
The bowler can request that the warning be given. From that point, the possibility of mankading is open and everyone will be aware of it.

Until that point it shouldn’t be an option.

Nah... unless we have warnings rolled out for every other form of dismissals.

 

[honestbharani]

She is a captain and hence the voice of the team. I am sure she asked the player involved before making that comment. She doesn’t need to be on the field to make that remark.

Nah... when the player involved says the umpires were told, it is a pretty big assumption and literally zero grounds to accuse another team and player of "lying". Its irresponsible at best and actual lying on her part at worst.

 

[ashley bach]

it's good that everyone agrees that it's the right call

the Laws clearly say any attempt to steal a run is unfair. So clearly what the non striker is doing is against the Spirit of Cricket, and any action the bowler takes to counter that is just.

So really we need to define the difference between backing up and stealing a whole lot better.

 

[honestbharani]

That's because those other forms of dismissals are true forms of dismissal, so why would you hear about them in a warning.

See what we are up against @SteveNZ

Its simple, mate. Stay inside the crease till the bowler lets go of the ball else face the risk of being ran out, as fair as any other part of the game. If they feel its against some unilateral spirt of the game they drew up in their head, they should justifiably be told to just shut up and suck it.

 

[ashley bach]

Stay inside your crease because....is a broken record, think we all heard that one to death.

 

[Xix2565]

That's because those other forms of dismissals are true forms of dismissal, so why would you hear about them in a warning.

So it's a bullshit standard made up by idiots so that they can comfort themselves whenever they end up on the wrong side of a decision they absolutely dislike. Sorry but you don't get to decide what's a true form of dismissal and what isn't, the laws do and neither you nor anyone else have much of an argument to impose your feelings over how the game actually works just because you didn't like what happened.

 

[ashley bach]

So it's a bull**** standard made up by idiots so that they can comfort themselves whenever they end up on the wrong side of a decision they absolutely dislike. Sorry but you don't get to decide what's a true form of dismissal and what isn't, the laws do and neither you nor anyone else have much of an argument to impose your feelings over how the game actually works just because you didn't like what happened.

Ok boss

 

[cnerd123]

So really we need to define the difference between backing up and stealing a whole lot better.

nah. you're out by 1mm or out by a yard, it's all the same for runouts and stumpings. Why add complexity where it's not needed? Just stay in your crease till the ball is bowled.

 

[Xix2565]

Hilarious that people can't stop to think about what they're actually saying and avoid making dumb arguments.

 

[ashley bach]

nah. you're out by 1mm or out by a yard, it's all the same for runouts and stumpings. Why add complexity where it's not needed? Just stay in your crease till the ball is bowled.

Because run outs and stumpings are a different breed.