The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

[AndrewB]

Quite a lot of the batsmen picked above (e.g. Hayden, Smith, Sangakkara, Lara and Gilchrist) are right-arm bowlers according to Cricinfo.
Meanwhile, Verity batted right-handed.

An XI who batted left-handed and were left-arm bowlers:
Bill Lawry
Arthur Morris
Martin Donnelly
Allan Border
Garry Sobers
Quinton de Kock+
Shakib Al Hasan
Ravindra Jadeja
Alan Davidson
Wasim Akram
Bill Johnston

 

[Slifer]

Ok all time southpaw XI:

Hayden
Smith
Sangakkara
Lara
Border*
Sobers
Gilchrist +
Wasim
Davidson
Verity
Reid

Vs their right handed counterparts:

Hobbs
Hutton
Bradman
Sachin
Viv
Imran*
Ames+
Hadlee
Marshall
Warne
Murali

 

[Coronis]

tbh completely forgot about Pollock when doing my XI

Smith*
Hayden
Sangakkara
Lara
Pollock
Sobers
Gilchrist+
Wasim
Davidson
Johnson
Verity/Underwood

yeah ok I’ll give up on Shakib. Still an argument for Border somewhere in there, iirc all those top order players and Gilly are quite aggressive, Border does complement the rest pretty much perfectly.

 

[Slifer]

Ffs

If you're Australian and left out Davidson in an Australian left handed XI, you should hang your head in shame...???

 

[Fuller Pilch]

NZ left handers XI

B Sutcliffe
M Richardson**
JF Reid
S Fleming (c)
D Conway
M Donnelly
D Vettori*
E Tindill (wk) (Test av of 9 - gulp, but 1st class 30)
N Wagner
R Collinge
T Boult

* Amongst allrounders Oram, Ryder and Neesham all bat left and bowl right. Corey Anderson was left and left if you want Vettori at 8. Likewise in the other team Hadlee was also right arm bowler, but lefthanded bat.

** John Wright and Tom Lathan could also open.

NZ right handers
Turner
Dempster
Williamson (c)
Crowe
Taylor
Watling (wk)
C Cairns
Hadlee
J Bracewell
Cowie
Bond

Southee and McCullum unlucky to miss out.

 

[Slifer]

WI this will be rough but here goes:

Fredricks
Gayle
Lara
Kallicharan
Chanderpaul
Lloyd*
Sobers
Jacobs+
Collins
Neil Mcgarrell
Valentine

**I'm playing Sobers as a pace bowler.

Right handed

Greenidge
Hunte
Headley
Viv*
Weekes
Walcott
Dujon*
Marshall
Holding
Garner
Ambrose

 

[Red]

World Left vs World Right

G Smith
B Lawry
K Sangakkara
B Lara
A Border
G Sobers
A Gilchrist
R Jadeja
A Davidson
W Akram
B Johnston

S Gavaskar
L Hutton
D Bradman
S Tendulkar
V Richards
J Kallis
I Healy
R Hadlee
S Warne
M Marshall
G McGrath

 

[Starfighter]

WI this will be rough but here goes:

Fredricks
Gayle
Lara
Kallicharan
Chanderpaul
Lloyd*
Sobers
Jacobs+
Collins
Neil Mcgarrell
Valentine

**I'm playing Sobers as a pace bowler.

Bernard Julien? Though picking a guy with an average of 37 is desperate even for an XI that short of bowling.

B Johnston

W, FFS.

Also if I was picking a spinner to face an AT lefties XI I'd pick Murali as he turns the ball away.

 

[Patience and Accuracy+Gut]

All time left handed xi
Morris
Smith*
Sanga
Lara
Hill
Sobers
Gilchrist+
Davidson
Akram
Verity
Wagner

Right handed xi
Trumper
Hobbs
Bradman*
Smith
Headley
Richards
Knott+
Hadlee
Marshall
Lindwall/Barnes
O’Reilly

 

[Shady Slim]

cricket web all time lefty xi

burgey*
rtb
athlai
spark(5)
duffer
uppercut+
shady
brumbers(3)
sledger(2)
grecian(4)
heef(1)

cricket web all time righty xi

gimmers
pews
watson*
gotspin
TNT(5)
ikki
stephen+
fuller pilch(4)
groundking(2)
DL(3)
robbie(1)

 

[AndrewB]

The bat-left-bowl-right XI is strong:
Graeme Smith
Matthew Hayden
Kumar Sangakkara
Graeme Pollock
Brian Lara
Ben Stokes
Adam Gilchrist+
Richard Hadlee
Bill O'Reilly
Curtly Ambrose
Kagiso Rabada
with plenty of options for batters/pace bowlers (Cook, Chanderpaul, Gower, Flower, Lloyd, Langer, Hussey, Harvey; Anderson, Broad, Statham, Morkel, Gregory) but no real alternatives to O'Reilly as the spin bowler.

The bat-right-bowl-left XI is weaker - hundreds of spin options (Underwood, Verity, Bedi, Lock, Briggs, Blythe), but thin on pace bowlers... also, Murray Bisset is the only wicket-keeper listed by Statsguru as eligible:
Vinoo Mankad
Wilfred Rhodes
Charlie Macartney
Frank Worrell
Denis Compton
Inzamam-ul-Haq
Frank Foster
Murray Bisset+
Trent Boult
Bill Voce
Bill Whitty

 

[Gob]

What an underrated rivalry has Eng vs RSA has been since latter's re admission to the game. We often talk about Ashes, Border Gavaskar, India vs Pakistan etc but imo non of them has been closely fought as Eng vs SA. Both seem to excel at others home. With all that in mind, let's pick two teams from post 1992

Eng

Trescothick
Cook
Root
Pietersen
Thorpe
Stokes
Prior
Flintoff
Broad
Swann
Anderson

SA

Smith
Kirsten
Amla
Kallis
DeVilliers
Du Plesis
Boucher
Pollock
Mahraj
Steyn
Donald

Two four match series home and away for each team. Would be some viewing

 

[Gob]

The bat-left-bowl-right XI is strong:
Graeme Smith
Matthew Hayden
Kumar Sangakkara
Graeme Pollock
Brian Lara
Ben Stokes
Adam Gilchrist+
Richard Hadlee
Bill O'Reilly
Curtly Ambrose
Kagiso Rabada
with plenty of options for batters/pace bowlers (Cook, Chanderpaul, Gower, Flower, Lloyd, Langer, Hussey, Harvey; Anderson, Broad, Statham, Morkel, Gregory) but no real alternatives to O'Reilly as the spin bowler.

The bat-right-bowl-left XI is weaker - hundreds of spin options (Underwood, Verity, Bedi, Lock, Briggs, Blythe), but thin on pace bowlers... also, Murray Bisset is the only wicket-keeper listed by Statsguru as eligible:
Vinoo Mankad
Wilfred Rhodes
Charlie Macartney
Frank Worrell
Denis Compton
Inzamam-ul-Haq
Frank Foster
Murray Bisset+
Trent Boult
Bill Voce
Bill Whitty

Micheal Clarke

 

[Red]

Chat during commentary in the current odi about Aus all time odi. Kerry OKeefe doesn’t include McGrath, opting for Lillee, Lee and Starc

Gilchrist
Waugh
Ponting
Jones
Symonds
Hussey
Watson
Warne
Starc
Lillee
McGrath

for me

 

[Coronis]

Chat during commentary in the current odi about Aus all time odi. Kerry OKeefe doesn’t include McGrath, opting for Lillee, Lee and Starc

Gilchrist
Waugh
Ponting
Jones
Symonds
Hussey
Watson
Warne
Starc
Lillee
McGrath

for me

No Bevan?

 

[Gob]

Each man for himself but honestly anyone not picking both Lee and McGrath are smoking pot

 

[trundler]

Bracken over Lee any day

 

[Gob]

Bracken over Lee any day

Set me up with your pot guy

 

[TheJediBrah]

Each man for himself but honestly anyone not picking both Lee and McGrath are smoking pot

I was thinking the same thing yesterday. McGrath is one of, if not the, first picked ODI player in history from any country

 

[Gob]

I was thinking the same thing yesterday. McGrath is one of, if not the, first picked ODI player in history from any country

I think some people just like to have a different opinion just for the sake of it when majority holds a unanimous opinion