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Damien Martyn

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So you think that South Africa test match played on his mind slot when most people said he played a rash shot in 2nd innings
 

Line and Length

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Was his initial dropping in '94 justified?
IMO, "No".
He was made the scapegoat for an overall team batting failure. The side was chasing 117 for victory and he was castigated for batting carefully/slowly and then crucified (by media and selectors) for playing a lofted shot which brought him undone.
 

Burgey

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Was his initial dropping in '94 justified?
Yes, because he only played that test owing to S Waugh being injured. So he would have been omitted next game even if Aus had won. The established Aus batting line up at that time was:

Taylor
Slater
Boon
M Waugh
TOTAB
S Waugh

There's no way he was ahead of any of those blokes in the middle order at that time
 

TheJediBrah

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Yes, because he only played that test owing to S Waugh being injured. So he would have been omitted next game even if Aus had won. The established Aus batting line up at that time was:

Taylor
Slater
Boon
M Waugh
TOTAB
S Waugh

There's no way he was ahead of any of those blokes in the middle order at that time
Interesting. Well before my time but this really goes against the "Damien Martyn scapegoat/dropped unfairly" narrative that's always been perpetuated
 

Burgey

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I think that narrative probably has more to do with him not getting another gig for a fair while after TOTAB retired, which was only at the end of that summer, rather than him being dropped for the next game, though after so long they probably blend into one.

IIRC Waugh came back for the next test in Adelaide and made 160 odd.

Aus then toured SA in the return series straight after, which was TOTAB's last. They next played later in the year in Pakistan and Taylor was skipper by then, and Bevan got first crack at the middle order spot vacated by God. He looked nailed on, too. Made a decent score against the Ws over there, then weirdly struggled vs the short ball against England of all sides in 94/95 back home, and they were hapless water buffaloes. Such a weird foible in Bevan's game, that one.
 

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I think that narrative probably has more to do with him not getting another gig for a fair while after TOTAB retired, which was only at the end of that summer, rather than him being dropped for the next game, though after so long they probably blend into one.

IIRC Waugh came back for the next test in Adelaide and made 160 odd.

Aus then toured SA in the return series straight after, which was TOTAB's last. They next played later in the year in Pakistan and Taylor was skipper by then, and Bevan got first crack at the middle order spot vacated by God. He looked nailed on, too. Made a decent score against the Ws over there, then weirdly struggled vs the short ball against England of all sides in 94/95 back home, and they were hapless water buffaloes. Such a weird foible in Bevan's game, that one.
Unrelated but as somoene who i'm assuming saw a good chunk of bevan the red ball cricketer live do you think he was as hapless vs the short ball as some claimed? I can't see how somoene could be so gun in ODI's and shield cricket in that era and not be able to play the short ball.
 

TheJediBrah

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Unrelated but as somoene who i'm assuming saw a good chunk of bevan the red ball cricketer live do you think he was as hapless vs the short ball as some claimed? I can't see how somoene could be so gun in ODI's and shield cricket in that era and not be able to play the short ball.
I've never bought it. He never seemed to have any trouble against it in ODIs, maybe he just figured it out by the 1999ish but then never got another chance at Tests
 

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