sledger
Spanish_Vicente
He's fine as a keeper, as a batter you'd find several players as good as him in most county sides
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*Official* 2022 New Zealand Tour of England, Ireland, Scotland & Netherlands
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Lillian Thomson
Hall of Fame Member
It’s a nice warm fuzzy feeling that all the New Zealanders who went to bed depressed will wake up, eat drink and be merry.
Pup Clarke
Cricketer Of The Year
Eh, think he's fine as a bat personally. First test on home soil, good start to the county season etc
Give him the summer then we can properly judge imo
BeeGee
International Captain
Merry? These are NZ fans you're talking about, yeah?
I went to bed before all of it, and wake up unsurprised that a) an underdone outfit made 100-odd (NZ) and b) a pretty poor batting line-up made nothing more in reply. Was always going to happen.
God bless Lord Colin de Grandhomme.
I know it's one knock, but England and McCullum will soon discover that Pope at 3 is ridiculous, and no amount of talking him up in the media will account for the fact he won't find his feet at Test level there. Although, he might break the all-time Test record for no ducks in a Test career before he gets dropped at the end of the summer.
grecian
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
He get's in my side, on the averaging 100 this season thing, not convinced myself particularly, but he's not out ATM, so we'll see.
grecian
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Yeah overdid it there, and Sam Hain should possibly be in consideration too, but shows a good set of Championship games do give you options, which we've patently ignored. Bohannon is a consistent number 3, which isn't a bad step-up, and I can't think of another opener.
flibbertyjibber
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I'd never have had Pope or Bairstow in the side. Brook had to play and pick someone who has batted at 3 to play at 3. I hate picking players who have only played hit and giggle and not been playing red ball cricket so Bairstow shouldn't be playing.
I bet we pick Moeen Ali next week to strengthen the batting.
I bet we pick Moeen Ali next week to strengthen the batting.
Red_Ink_Squid
Global Moderator
There's been a lot of things obviously not up to Test standard today, don't think the pitch is one of them!
SillyCowCorner1
Moooo
World Champs for a reason ?
sledger
Spanish_Vicente
People were (rightly) saying that Bairstow should never play tests again at least 2-3 years ago
The fact that he's still regularly selected is a damning indictment on the alternatives
I like him but the fact that there's apparently nobody better than him who can come into the side is hilariously dire
The fact that he's still regularly selected is a damning indictment on the alternatives
I like him but the fact that there's apparently nobody better than him who can come into the side is hilariously dire
White Ball
State 12th Man
I don’t really rate the guy and I do agree 2 years ago when that was said! But in fairness he scored 2 100s in the last 4 tests is he really the main problem in their batting?
Pup Clarke
Cricketer Of The Year
I mean yeah he has. But do you take the possible short-term success of a Bairstow (who's played over eighty tests for a middling average) or go with a Bohannon or Brook who's upside and potential could be better - maybe immediately too?
jcas0167
International Debutant
I should be thrilled but I feel slightly sorry for Stokes and McCullum waking up to see how things ended up after that great start. People will no doubt bag the English batsmen but this is a very good NZ attack for these conditions. They were key to winning the WTC final last year.
De Grandhomme's batting has been better than a lot of NZ fans expected since he returned from injury.
De Grandhomme's batting has been better than a lot of NZ fans expected since he returned from injury.
thierry henry
International Coach
Did they really only bowl 76 overs in a day though
Yeah, outrageous for anyone to think a batting line-up can drop someone who scored the only Ashes hundred last summer then scored another a Test later. Maybe he's not the future, but England don't have the luxury of bringing in new blood over someone who at least might be in a bit of form.