Greatest ODI Bowler

[anil1405]

How is this Wasim? McGrath took more wickets per innings, at a better Average and better Strike Rate and Economy Rate. Has more 5 wicket hauls. Counters wining 1 world cup and finalist in 1 other by winning 3 world cups and a finalist in 1. McGrath is easily the best ODI bowler. Wasim is just a comparative fart sniffer.

Fixed.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

First XI

Jayasuriya / Watson
Tendulkar
Richards
Kohli
de Villiers
Hussey
Dhoni
Akram
Garner
Murali
McGrath

Second XI

Watson / Jayasuriya
Gilchrist
Abbas
Ponting
Lara
Bevan
Dev
Pollock / Imran
Hadlee
Lillee
Saqlain

Jayasuriya as 5th bowler is a huge risk.
Its like Ganguly being 5th bowler in a normal 11.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

How is this Wasim? McGrath took more wickets per innings, at a better Average and better Strike Rate and Economy Rate. Has more 5 wicket hauls. Counters wining 1 world cup and finalist in 2 others by winning 3 world cups and a finalist in 1. McGrath is easily the best ODI bowler. Wasim is just a comparative fart sniffer.

Imagine Mcgrath playing 20 years for Pakistan..
without the support of great WK, extra ordinary fielders, score board pressure.. Also 5-6 years more than his actual career....
He would end up as a 30 avg bowler with 4.5 ER. With 1 or 2 4 wicket hauls. ( he already has a low 4 wickets ratio, and now he is competing with Waqar, Akthar, Saqlain, fielders.. Etc )

 

[Victor Ian]

I deal with what is. I don't need to engage in wondering. That is for fart sniffers. If Wasim wanted good fielders he should have told his early world's most inspirational captain to inspire his lazy ass team mates to practice.

 

[Red]

Haha people have had this argument with Red at least 1000 times. He just thinks Symonds was one of the greatest bowlers of all time for some reason.

Not one of the greatest bowlers ever. One of the greatest 5th bowlers ever ??

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

I deal with what is. I don't need to engage in wondering. That is for fart sniffers. If Wasim wanted good fielders he should have told his early world's most inspirational captain to inspire his lazy ass team mates to practice.

Nah, it was fun for him dealing with all these hurdles and still performing better than everyone in the world.

 

[Victor Ian]

Nah, it was fun for him dealing with all these hurdles and still performing better than everyone in the world.

But he didn't. I mean, in an alternate universe, maybe. But not this one. If you want a left handed ODI star, you should pick Starc. It's unfortunate, but true.
Look...Wasim is a nice guy, but he is not even top 3 ODI bowlers ever, no matter how you assess it.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Not one of the greatest bowlers ever. One of the greatest 5th bowlers ever ??

As 5th bowler

Symonds
59 matches, 53 wickets, 38 avg, ER 5

Klusner
54 matches 60 wickets, 30 avg, ER 4.5

Vettori
127 matches 165 wickets, 26 avg, ER 4

Jayasuriya
126 matches, 126 wickets, 37 avg, 4.6 ER

Ravi Shastri
64 matches, 76 wickets, 29 avg, 4.2 ER

Ganguly
57 matches, 42 wkts, 31 avg, 4.8 ER

Viv
78 matches, 88 wickets, avg 34, 4.6 ER

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

But he didn't. I mean, in an alternate universe, maybe. But not this one. If you want a left handed ODI star, you should pick Starc. It's unfortunate, but true.
Look...Wasim is a nice guy, but he is not even top 3 ODI bowlers ever, no matter how you assess it.

All hail Rashid Khan.
GOAT ODI Bowler in the Real World ?

 

[Migara]

Jayasuriya as 5th bowler is a huge risk.
Its like Ganguly being 5th bowler in a normal 11.

Jayasuriya, Richards and Tendulkar would be fifth bowler. Jaya was even a death bowler at his pomp. Far superior bowler than selecting Symnonds.

 

[Migara]

As 5th bowler

Symonds
59 matches, 53 wickets, 38 avg, ER 5

Klusner
54 matches 60 wickets, 30 avg, ER 4.5

Vettori
127 matches 165 wickets, 26 avg, ER 4

Jayasuriya
126 matches, 126 wickets, 37 avg, 4.6 ER

Ravi Shastri
64 matches, 76 wickets, 29 avg, 4.2 ER

Ganguly
57 matches, 42 wkts, 31 avg, 4.8 ER

Viv
78 matches, 88 wickets, avg 34, 4.6 ER

This is called filtering dishonesty.

 

[h_hurricane]

Symonds is an outstanding option as 5th bowler

His stats would have been even better if not for the inflicted limitation of not able to field elsewhere when he was bowling.

 

[Daemon]

Symonds was a decent 5th bowler because the rest of his bowling attack would do all the work for him. Kinda like Lyon in tests.

 

[harsh.ag]

Symonds was a decent 5th bowler because the rest of his bowling attack would do all the work for him. Kinda like Lyon in tests.

Living legend Lyon

 

[Red]

Geez Symonds was good with the ball

 

[Victor Ian]

All hail Rashid Khan.
GOAT ODI Bowler in the Real World ?

Now you've got it. It's never Wasim.

 

[Chrish]

Have to give it to Wasim here.. He would have succeeded even in current batter dominated era. Same can’t be said of others IMO.

 

[Migara]

Have to give it to Wasim here.. He would have succeeded even in current batter dominated era. Same can’t be said of others IMO.

McGrath and Murali would still get current batsmen without any difficulty.

 

[Chrish]

McGrath and Murali would still get current batsmen without any difficulty.

I reckon McGrath would be more prone to getting carted around under current conditions. I have seen batsmen successfully attacking him in ODI and him completely going under the shell. I can think of at least 4-5 occasions where Tendy went after him in odi and he had to be taken off the attack. Batsmen under current rules are far better at power-hitting than they were during McGrath’s career.

Wasim on the other hand would be difficult to dominate. He was far more versatile. Basically superior version of Starc. I definitely see him doing better than Mcg.

Not gonna compare spinner and pace bowler.

 

[miscer]

I deal with what is. I don't need to engage in wondering. That is for fart sniffers. If Wasim wanted good fielders he should have told his early world's most inspirational captain to inspire his lazy ass team mates to practice.

You can’t compare 2 players in a team sport without team context. This isn’t the long jump