Greatest ODI Bowler

[Fuller Pilch]

Shakib bowling avg
Against
Australia - 58
England - 48
South Africa - 48
India - 40
Srilanka - 51

Great selection ?

But what is his economy rate? And he's a quality ODI batsman.

 

[Red]

We have had a good number of threads in the past about Symonds as the fifth bowler. The past few posts are making me relive those wonderful days. And to quote the general forum opinion once again, it is a recipe for disaster.

Symonds is an outstanding option as 5th bowler

 

[Red]

Gichrist
Sachin
Ponting
Richards
Kohli
AB Devilliers
Symonds
Wasim
Garner
Murali
McGrath

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Tendulkar
Sharma
Kohli
Abbas
Richards
De Villiers
Klusner
Akram
Garner
Mcgrath
Murali

 

[Prince EWS]

it's just occurred to me the 2003-2007 Australian ODI side could have been even more OP if they bowled out Lee before the 35th and used McGrath, Bracken, Gillespie, Kasprowicz et al at the death instead.

Lee is definitely the worst of the ODI greats at death bowling that I can think of in six seconds of thought.

Haha the amount of runs he conceded off snicks to third man in the last five overs was unreal.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Gichrist
Sachin
Ponting
Richards
Kohli
AB Devilliers
Symonds
Wasim
Garner
Murali
McGrath

Unless you are picking Symonds in the top 6 (probably 5), why pick him? No 7s don't bat much in ODIs anyway, and he only played 38 ODIs at 7 at an average of 21. You might as well pick a better bowler such as Klusener, Kapil, Flintoff, Imran, Hadlee, Oram etc. Or Chris Harris if you also want another gun fielder (although Viv, Ponting, and AB were 3 guns in the field).

 

[Prince EWS]

Unless you are picking Symonds in the top 6 (probably 5), why pick him? No 7s don't bat much in ODIs anyway, and he only played 38 ODIs at 7 at an average of 21. You might as well pick a better bowler such as Klusener, Kapil, Flintoff, Hadlee, Oram etc. Or Chris Harris if you also want another gun fielder (although Viv, Ponting, and AB were 3 guns in the field).

Haha people have had this argument with Red at least 1000 times. He just thinks Symonds was one of the greatest bowlers of all time for some reason.

 

[ankitj]

Klusener, Kapil Dev, Sanath Jayasuriya, Shane Watson and Shakib Al Hasan all are much better alternatives to Symonds

Flintoff and Imran would be my top 2 picks for the role

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Ultimate ODI 11

Sachin - Lara
Viv, Kohli, AB
Dhoni, Kapil, Hadlee
Akram, Saqlain, Garner

( Pollock and Mcgrath interchangeable with Hadlee and Garner )

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Ultimate ODI 11

Sachin - Lara
Viv, Kohli, AB
Dhoni, Kapil, Hadlee
Akram, Saqlain, Garner

( Pollock and Mcgrath interchangeable with Hadlee and Garner )

Great side on paper, but no Aussies (unless you put McGrath in) and they knew how to win World Cups.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Aussie ATG side would challenge PFK's team, as would a best of the rest:

Gilchrist (wk)
Watson
Ponting
Jones
Symonds
Bevan
Hussey
Warne
Starc
Bracken
McGrath

Best of the rest (no Aussies):

Bairstow
Jayasuriya
Babar Azam
R Taylor
Abbas
Buttler (wk)
Klusener
Vaas
Bond
Donald
Murali

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

But what is his economy rate? And he's a quality ODI batsman.

35 avg 80 sr batting
45 avg 4.75 ER bowling
Approximate quality of Shakib against Quality teams.

Thats not even Cronje level, let alone Klusner, Watson, Kapil.. Etc

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Great side on paper, but no Aussies (unless you put McGrath in) and they knew how to win World Cups.

Against far inferior teams ?

For example, If india Had Bumra and Dhoni in 2003 WC, Australia's chances will be very less.

Also Dhoni, Viv, Garner, Akram, Sachin, Kohli, Kapil.. All knows how to win WCs.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Aussie ATG side would challenge PFK's team, as would a best of the rest:

Gilchrist (wk)
Watson
Ponting
Jones
Symonds
Bevan
Hussey
Warne
Starc
Bracken
McGrath

Best of the rest (no Aussies):

Bairstow
Jayasuriya
Babar Azam
R Taylor
Abbas
Buttler (wk)
Klusener
Vaas
Bond
Donald
Murali

Vaas above Waquar, Ambrose, Imran.. Etc??

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Vaas above Waquar, Ambrose, Imran.. Etc??

Lots of quality ODI bowlers

 

[Migara]

First XI

Jayasuriya / Watson
Tendulkar
Richards
Kohli
de Villiers
Hussey
Dhoni
Akram
Garner
Murali
McGrath

Second XI

Watson / Jayasuriya
Gilchrist
Abbas
Ponting
Lara
Bevan
Dev
Pollock / Imran
Hadlee
Lillee
Saqlain

 

[Bitmap]

Tendulkar
Jayasuriya
Kohli
Richards
de Villiers
Dhoni+(C)
Klusener
Wasim
Garner
Murali
McGrath

 

[Migara]

Vaas above Waquar, Ambrose, Imran.. Etc??

Vaas is massively underrated as an ODI bowler. ATG material given how tight he was.

 

[Victor Ian]

How is this Wasim? McGrath took more wickets per innings, at a better Average and better Strike Rate and Economy Rate. Has more 5 wicket hauls. Counters wining 1 world cup and finalist in 2 others by winning 3 world cups and a finalist in 1. McGrath is easily the best ODI bowler. Wasim is just a comparative fart sniffer.

 

[Victor Ian]

For what it's worth, Wasim also sniffing Garner's farts.