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Line and Length

Line and Length

Cricketer Of The Year
The pathetic attacks on Lillee because of his SC performances continue. What his detractors fail to acknowledge is that he broke down with stress fractures of the lower vertebrae and his entire torso was in plaster for 6 months. Did they really expect him to tour India while in that situation? Of course, WSC then interrupted his career after his comeback.
To claim Bumrah is a superior bowler is speculation and, until his career is over, I'm not prepared to evaluate his claim to fame.
 
h_hurricane

h_hurricane

International Vice-Captain
Come to think of it, Bumrah has already more wickets outside Asian subcontinent than Lillee outside Australian continent. And at a better average as well. He has also a far more balanced split across multiple countries.

Bumrah still needs to take some 200 odd wickets in places like Colombo. Kandy, Dhaka, Nagpur, Chennai, Mumbai, Calcutta etc. Until that happens, one should admit that Lillee has had the better career. However, Boom Boom doesn't need to prove anything outside Asia.
 
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Line and Length

Line and Length

Cricketer Of The Year
I'm not denying that Bumrah is an excellent bowler but he's early in his career (123 wickets) and his fine average (21.73) is helped by tremendous figures against two of the weaker Test nations of the time (23 wickets @ 9.13).

When comparing bowlers from different eras, we need to consider the quality of opposition of the day. As an example, Lillee's bowling average v WI (55w @27.75) is higher than his career average (355w @23.92) but the WI line-up of the time included Greenidge, Haynes, Richards, Lloyd, Kallicharan et a. It would be pure speculation as to how Bumrah would perform against such a strong line-up.

I know quoting statistics can be odious to some but, when comparing bowlers of different eras we have little else to go by ... apart from looking at the quality of opponents. I have endeavoured to combine both factors when looking at 2 fine bowlers.
 
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Xix2565

International Regular
Bumrah doesn't have to bowl to the strongest batting lineup to be fair, unless you want to penalise people like McGrath/Marshall for having the same problem. Though I will agree that it's still early days for him.
 
honestbharani

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
I dont like to rate players who are still playing in any alltime comparisons or anything. Complete Vs incomplete careers are never really fully fair, except when there is an obvious difference in levels but even then, it just makes sense to compare only completed careers or ony inprogress careers.
 
ImpatientLime

ImpatientLime

International Regular
during their exile from playing at home, why didn't pakistan play their 'home' games in england rather than the UAE?

they would have attracted much better crowds and the conditions make for way more entertaining cricket.
 
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honestbharani

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
www.thecricketmonthly.com

Bringing the A game

The WTC final was contested by the two teams with the best A programmes, and that's no coincidence. A tours are more important than ever before
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Very interesting read. The fact that the first WTC finals happened between the sides that played the most A team cricket in the previous 4 years is very fascinating.
 
karan_fromthestands

karan_fromthestands

State Captain
h_hurricane said:
Come to think of it, Bumrah has already more wickets outside Asian subcontinent than Lillee outside Australian continent. And at a better average as well. He has also a far more balanced split across multiple countries.

Bumrah still needs to take some 200 odd wickets in places like Colombo. Kandy, Dhaka, Nagpur, Chennai, Mumbai, Calcutta etc. Until that happens, one should admit that Lillee has had the better career. However, Boom Boom doesn't need to prove anything outside Asia.
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LOL, but we were all just trolling. Why do people get so sensitive when we talk about certain cricketers :laugh: It would be stupid to say Bumrah is better than Lillee. It was obvious that we were kidding.
 
karan_fromthestands

karan_fromthestands

State Captain
Line and Length said:
The pathetic attacks on Lillee because of his SC performances continue. What his detractors fail to acknowledge is that he broke down with stress fractures of the lower vertebrae and his entire torso was in plaster for 6 months. Did they really expect him to tour India while in that situation? Of course, WSC then interrupted his career after his comeback.
To claim Bumrah is a superior bowler is speculation and, until his career is over, I'm not prepared to evaluate his claim to fame.
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No one has really claimed it, people were just trolling:confused:.
 
ParwazHaiJunoon

ParwazHaiJunoon

First Class Debutant
After much speculation, it turns out that chief reason of Smith's diminishing returns / decline is not Age (hand-eye coordination / slow reflexes)
Infect:
Teams have become better at containing Smith. They have been smarter with their leg-side fields to cut off his scoring zones

With SR of 56.38 till Ashes2019, Smith needed 177 balls to score a century.
He faced 177 or more balls 27 times & scored 24 hundreds in this period.

After Ashes-2019, @ SR of 40.80, Smith requires 246 balls to score a century.
--> He faced 177+ balls 6 times, but scored only 1 hundred.

Pak vs Aus 3rd Test - Another Steven Smith fifty, another Steven Smith non-hundred (espncricinfo.com)
 
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