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OverratedSanity

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There were a few in the Ind-SA test too. The ball wasnt in the same postal code as Thakur but he was expected to play it apparently. It's ridiculous. The idea that bowlers can spray it around like this and not get punished just because it was accidental is so crap.
 
Spark

Spark

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OverratedSanity said:
There were a few in the Ind-SA test too. The ball wasnt in the same postal code as Thakur but he was expected to play it apparently. It's ridiculous. The idea that bowlers can spray it around like this and not get punished just because it was accidental is so crap.
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i think the worst i can recall in recent memory was the 2019 ashes. ben stokes bowled like half a dozen massive wides down legside that no reasonable batsman could play a shot to on that first day, none of them got called.
 
Starfighter

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Absolutely, a point I've made several times. I hate the leg side wide rule in white ball cricket with a passion, but it doesn't excuse not implementing the rule properly in tests.

To state again:
22.1 Judging a Wide

22.1.1 If the bowler bowls a ball, not being a No ball, the umpire shall adjudge it a Wide if, according to the definition in 22.1.2, the ball passes wide of where the striker is standing and which also would have passed wide of the striker standing in a normal guard position.

22.1.2 The ball will be considered as passing wide of the striker unless it is sufficiently within reach for him/her to be able to hit it with the bat by means of a normal cricket stroke.
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Most umpires seem to instead think that anything inside the return crease on either side is fine. Johnson got away with an especially egregious example on Boxing Day 2010, yorker length landing just inside the leg side (to a left hander) return crease and evading Haddin by a long way.
 
Dendarii

Dendarii

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Daemon said:
It's difficult for the umpires though, they have a thousand other things on their mind like holding the bowler's cap with the correct technique and organising a tee off time for the weekend.
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You're being charitable to the umpires. It's only 999 things as they don't hold the bowler's cap anymore. COVID's put a stop to that, so now you'll see the captain wearing the bowler's hat as well as his own.
 
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karan_fromthestands

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OverratedSanity said:
There were a few in the Ind-SA test too. The ball wasnt in the same postal code as Thakur but he was expected to play it apparently. It's ridiculous. The idea that bowlers can spray it around like this and not get punished just because it was accidental is so crap.
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Test cricket should allow these things. Batsmen move around the crease all the time, and are even allowed to advance down the track while bowlers can't. Also, I think because of the number of fielders allowed behind square, bowlers will have to change their line if the batsmen figure out a way to just somehow get bat on ball to those legside deliveries.

Ultimately, the batters and bowlers have ultimate freedom in test cricket to approach the game the way they want, that shouldn't be taken away.
 
Teja.

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karan_fromthestands said:
Test cricket should allow these things. Batsmen move around the crease all the time, and are even allowed to advance down the track while bowlers can't. Also, I think because of the number of fielders allowed behind square, bowlers will have to change their line if the batsmen figure out a way to just somehow get bat on ball to those legside deliveries.

Ultimately, the batters and bowlers have ultimate freedom in test cricket to approach the game the way they want, that shouldn't be taken away.
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What is the point of wide rule then? Just bin it.
 
the big bambino

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karan_fromthestands said:
As much as batsmen? Can they bowl from round the wicket after telling the umpire that they are bowling over the wicket? Can they change their bowling arm?

Also, Can they step out and bowl without getting life bans for fixing :ph34r: ?
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What bowler is going to screw up their run up by hopping from side to side ... or changing their bowling arm? Telling the ump which arm or side of the wicket your using is hardly a deprivation of liberty.
 
karan_fromthestands

karan_fromthestands

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the big bambino said:
What bowler is going to screw up their run up by hopping from side to side ... or changing their bowling arm? Telling the ump which arm or side of the wicket your using is hardly a deprivation of liberty.
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You missed the most important point, can the bowler step out and bowl? Also, there are bowlers who can bowl with both arms.
 
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