2nd Test at Adelaide - 16 to 20 Dec

[TimAngas]

Selectors would seriously be taking the piss if they think opening with Street and Harris is the best we can do.

 

[Nintendo]

Selectors would seriously be taking the piss if they think opening with Street and Harris is the best we can do.

I get what you mean with harris but street really isn't that bad is he? Bit raw and probably want a harris/wade 2017 style shield season or more australia-A runs before he debuts, but theres definitely potential there. Averaging 40 as an opener playing on the kinda decks QLD usually role out isn't easy.

 

[Arachnodouche]

Rather have England's bowling options going into this game now that H'wood's out.

 

[MW1304]

I've seen this before. Hope going into the day/night Adelaide test at 0-1 down.

"Oh but England's bowling is more suited. They're definitely favourites here. Could still win this series you know."

Not happening.

 

[Pup Clarke]

Jhye Richardson is an absolute gun so can see Hazlewood's enforced absence not being that badly felt

 

[Gob]

Jhye Richardson is an absolute gun so can see Hazlewood's enforced absence not being that badly felt

Yeah can't wait to see him again.

 

[SteveNZ]

I've seen this before. Hope going into the day/night Adelaide test at 0-1 down.

"Oh but England's bowling is more suited. They're definitely favourites here. Could still win this series you know."

Not happening.

England might do well to avoid sub 100 scores if they meet the right/wrong conditions. If the ball gets hooping at dusk, the techniques in their top order just aren't up to handling it. Starc and Cummins are pink ball beasts. Agree with what you're saying, it ain't happening. And is England's bowling more suited? Their records in pink ball Tests say not. Techniques might be exposed and Australia's>>>>>England in that respect.

 

[SteveNZ]

Rather have England's bowling options going into this game now that H'wood's out.

Cummins/Starc/Richardson or Neser and a bit of Green v Broad/Anderson/Robinson/maybe Wood and a bit of Stokes seems pretty even, if not Australia's advantage given their pink ball prowess and form. To me anyway

 

[Flem274*]

I do think this will be closer due to England having a world class attack for lights, but Australia have that too and the better batting.

I think one session will decide the game where unfortunate timing causes a bit of a rout under lights with a new rock.

 

[Gob]

@Gnske thoughts?

 

[Burgey]

You'd probably still think they'd replicate at least those home results, purely because their bowling is still perfectly fine. But yeah it's the higher quality attacks that have exposed them horribly, plus I don't think covid quarantineball was exactly fair on the touring sides in terms of getting quality prep for the conditions.

Also there's quite a record now of a new English bat getting picked for Tests with a middling record but in good form, and their good form carries them for a bit, but then international attacks work them out and everyone sees that, really, they aren't especially good Test batsmen.

They desperately need a serviceable spinner to be competitive away from home. Doesn't have to be a world beater, but someone who can bowl long spells when not much is happening and keep things tight. One of the reasons India won here was because they basically shut Lyon down as an effective option. Cummins said last year before that series Lyon is the most important bowler in the side. It's probably worth England's while to have a crack at him this series like India did, because if he's nullified like Leach was for England in the first test, it really makes things tough on the rest of the bowlers.

 

[Burgey]

This game has a Melbourne last year feeling. Aust all pumped after the win (like 36 all out) but Eng could definitely sneak one here

Aus will win this inside four days as well.

 

[Adders]

Yeah, pink ball test under lights in Adelaide does not equal green seamer at an overcast Headingley.

Too much being made of these being more favourable conditions for England.

 

[Starfighter]

Yeah, pink ball test under lights in Adelaide does not equal green seamer at an overcast Headingley.

Too much being made of these being more favourable conditions for England.

I'd say they are more friendly, especially compared to the standard Sydney and Melbourne conditions. Both Anderson and Broad swung the ball plenty last time, though they both bowled too short initially and Broad still bowled crap, and Australia declared on 8/442.

But those conditions apply equally to our bowlers and Richardson is even more of a swing bowler than Starc or Haze. If the gap closes it's because Anderson and Broad are better bowlers than whoever they're replacing, not because the conditions are more advantageous for England.

I think this idea of the DN tests being a bit of a lottery is crap. And there's no guarantee the pitch will be as friendly as last time. What if the groundsman prepares one like for the Pakistan test, which was much tougher to bowl on and where Lyon picked up a five-for?

 

[Kraken]

The only reason England got as close as they did in Adelaide 4 years ago is because smith decided it was a good idea to come out and start the innings under lights ffs, won’t make that mistake again (one would hope)

 

[Burgey]

JRich confirmed as starting for Haze.

 

[Starfighter]

As usual much more interesting to see what the England XI's gonna be.

 

[GoodAreasShane]

I really hope Jhye listed to bat behind Lyon is an error

 

[Shady Slim]

tsk tsk

i would have given radelaide to BIG NES and probably used jhye in melbourne if haze was still out unless big nes did really well which i would hope that he does

 

[Prince EWS]

I really hope Jhye listed to bat behind Lyon is an error

Haha I think he could probably bat 8 in that lineup tbh. Makes sense not to have him automatically go ahead of the more experienced Test players of similar batting ability but there's absolutely no way he'll bat 11.