Would Viv have averaged 50 if he had to face WI attack also ?

[sunilz]

Viv Richards career average = 50.24
So if he had to face his own Country bowling attack , how much he would have averaged ( career average ) ?
And suppose , his average would have been < 50 , how he would have been rated ?

 

[ataraxia]

He'd retire earlier due to being hit on the head by Marshall, and thence end up averaging 55.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Probably not if his career average was 50.24

 

[Gnske]

Wouldn't even average 50 today

 

[mr_mister]

Obviously it would go down rather than up

Probably to 48 or so

 

[ankitj]

What if he finished with average under 50 even with WI career? Would have happened if he got out on duck in last innings IIRC. Would he still be considered one of the premier batsmen of all time?

 

[Line and Length]

Viv had some enthralling battles with Dennis Lillee. The WI attack comprised not just one, but multiple ATG fast bowlers so he would be under constant attack and it would be difficult for him to maintain his 50+ average.

 

[sunilz]

What if he finished with average under 50 even with WI career? Would have happened if he got out on duck in last innings IIRC. Would he still be considered one of the premier batsmen of all time?

Is there even 1 modern Test bat having average < 50 and regarded as ATG ?

 

[TheJediBrah]

Is there even 1 modern Test bat having average < 50 and regarded as ATG ?

Graeme Smith, Alistair Cook

 

[sunilz]

Graeme Smith, Alistair Cook

Cook as ATG ?
Smith is borderline ATG.

 

[mr_mister]

Cook as ATG ?
Smith is borderline ATG.

Stokes may end up one if can get his average to 45-48 area while maintaining his clutch performances with the bat

 

[sunilz]

Stokes may end up one if can get his average to 45-48 area while maintaining his clutch performances with the bat

He would be ATG because of him being allrounder. He won't be considered ATG bat.

Do you consider Laxman/Pietersen as ATG bat ?

 

[bagapath]

Viv Richards career average = 50.24
So if he had to face his own Country bowling attack , how much he would have averaged ( career average ) ?
And suppose , his average would have been < 50 , how he would have been rated ?

Gavaskar, G. Chappell, Miandad and Border played in the same era; faced three generations of the WI Indies attacks over many years and still ended up averaging 50+ over their long careers. As a batsman capable of dominating fast bowling, Viv was on par with them all - if not marginally better. He would, most probably, also have averaged above 50, IMO.

Can imagine him whacking Robert's bouncers over the square leg, driving Garner's Yorkers down the ground, square cutting Holding's out swingers and on driving Macko through mid wicket. And then sweeping and getting trapped in front of the wicket to Roger Harper.

 

[bagapath]

Is there even 1 modern Test bat having average < 50 and regarded as ATG ?

Sehwag
G Smith
Inzamam
KP

Greenidge
MD Crowe

 

[sunilz]

Sehwag
G Smith
Inzamam
KP

Greenidge
MD Crowe

I consider all these players as ATVG. But let's see what is the opinion of other CW members.

 

[Gob]

What is the attack be was not facing?

 

[TheJediBrah]

Gavaskar, G. Chappell, Miandad and Border played in the same era; faced three generations of the WI Indies attacks over many years and still ended up averaging 50+ over their long careers. As a batsman capable of dominating fast bowling, Viv was on par with them all - if not marginally better. He would, most probably, also have averaged above 50, IMO.

Don't think this logic works at all

 

[Coronis]

Depends on which team he would’ve played for.

 

[sunilz]

Depends on which team he would’ve played for.

Assume Australia .

 

[Burgey]

Yes