*Official* Yorkshire CCC racism crisis thread

[Burgey]

Yorkshire and racism have been hand in glove for some time. Fred Trueman was stood down from Tests after an England v West Indies match, during which one of the WI players (one of the 3 Ws?) complained of a racist comment (far worse than those reported today) made in a broad Yorkshire accent. I believe Trueman later denied it was him, suggesting it was Brian Close. Yorkshireman Len Hutton was captain at the time.

Len Hutton has questions to answer!

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[a massive zebra]

Yorkshire and racism have been hand in glove for some time. Fred Trueman was stood down from Tests after an England v West Indies match, during which one of the WI players (one of the 3 Ws?) complained of a racist comment (far worse than those reported today) made in a broad Yorkshire accent. I believe Trueman later denied it was him, suggesting it was Brian Close. Yorkshireman Len Hutton was captain at the time.

Those three players never played a test together.

Batting records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPNcricinfo.com

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[Line and Length]

Those three players never played a test together.

Batting records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPNcricinfo.com

stats.espncricinfo.com

My memory may have been at fault here.

 

[Burgey]

Len Hutton still has questions to answer though. My point stands.

 

[Chubb]

The BBC has questions to answer for employing Fred Truman.

 

[Burgey]

As does Channel Nine

 

[Line and Length]

It's easy to be critical of those brought up in a different era. Bigots were even celebrated on TV (Alf Garnett, Archie Bunker), women were trivialised and made *** objects (Benny Hill et al) and racial stereotypes were common. One would have thought people from that era would move with the times but many have ingrained views.

 

[Burgey]

thankfully their sick virus is confined to only Queensland at the moment, which let's face it....

Literally the only virus in Qld atm, though people from elsewhere for some bizarre reason known only to themselves think it odd Qlders are a tad happy it's like that.

 

[JOJOXI]

I have to say what's shocked me the most out of all of this is the response. Not only did the panel say calling Rafiq a P*** was 'banter', they decided that Rafiq - if he was still a Yorkshire employee should face disciplinary action for referring to Ballance as "Zimbo from Zimbabwe". Yet the club announce no employees would face further action. There is literally more condemnation for "Zimbo from Zimbabwe" then there is for a well-established racial slur.

The institutional issues whilst disappointing are hardly surprising - what is surprising is not even the attempt to feign sincere regret. The burying of reports around bigger news stories - they convinently released a statement on the day QdK decided to respond to taking the knee - is sadly to be expected.

I don't know Vaughan personally but it doesn't look good for him and seeing tweets like

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1402986291843637255

and this

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/27425121557

Its not difficult to imagine him saying "There are too many of you lot." It not being difficult to imagine, isn't him saying it but certainly don't buy what I've seen on other sites that this would be completely out of character for him.

 

[Burgey]

Of course he said it.

 

[Daemon]

"too many of you lot" nicely sums up what brexit was all about.

 

[Nintendo]

Can anyone explain why the pujara Steve thing is so bad on its own. I understand that when taken with context surrounding the other stuff going on at Yorkshire there's clearly racist intent behind it, but I saw a majority of people on social medias I frequent treating it like it was as bad as some of the other stuff mentioned in the initial report (The comment about the Pakistani player being "a pa**" and not TO talk to him because he's from another country.) Before the extent of the issues at Yorkshire where fully publicised.

 

[trundler]

I mean how it would be without the surrounding context is a purely academic distinction since the context is there

 

[Teja.]

Can anyone explain why the pujara Steve thing is so bad on its own. I understand that when taken with context surrounding the other stuff going on at Yorkshire there's clearly racist intent behind it, but I saw a majority of people on social medias I frequent treating it like it was as bad as some of the other stuff mentioned in the initial report (The comment about the Pakistani player being "a pa**" and not TO talk to him because he's from another country.) Before the extent of the issues at Yorkshire where fully publicised.

Of course it's not bad as outright racist slurs but it is an indicator of the lack of respect and decency for Asian players.

 

[Nintendo]

I mean how it would be without the surrounding context is a purely academic distinction since the context is there

Sorry if the initial question wasn't clear enough, completely my bad.

I was more asking why the Steve thing was treated as just as big an issue as the final findings of the report when AFAIR when pujara came out with this the report wasn't anywhere near finalized and had only recently become mainstream news in the cricket sphere.

Edit:Edited some language that trivialised the pujara issue.

 

[kevinw]

I'm following the Guardian's liveblog rather than watching it, but I'm not surprised Bresnan got a mention. There was an allusion before to a former England player no longer at the club (I was just desperately hoping it wasn't Plunkett).

 

[duffer]

I'm following the Guardian's liveblog rather than watching it, but I'm not surprised Bresnan got a mention. There was an allusion before to a former England player no longer at the club (I was just desperately hoping it wasn't Plunkett).

Pretty grim reading

 

[duffer]

Hales, Bresnan and Ballance the three named so far

 

[cnerd123]

Rafiq says he was pinned down as a 15-year-old in club cricket and had red wine poured down his throat. He says a player who played for Yorkshire and Hampshire was involved.

jfc

Green asks about Joe Root’s recent comments.

“Rooty is a good man, he’s never engaged in racist language,” says Rafiq. “I found [his comments] hurtful. He was Gary’s flatmate. He was involved in social nights out during which I was called a ****. He might not remember [the incidents of racism] but it shows how normal it was that even a good man like him doesn’t see it for what it is.”

attn @Burgey @GIMH

 

[duffer]

Rafiq is a brave, brave man.