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South Africa vs West Indies at Dubai: Matchday thread; Early Game Tue 26/10

Pick the winner

  • South Africa

    Votes: 4 80.0%
  • West Indies

    Votes: 1 20.0%

  • Total voters
    5

Niall

International Coach
It is a bit of a knee-jerk in the context of T20 WC to call the current champions beyond redemption.
I think in the last 3 t20 cricket world cups, they have won 2 and got a semi final in the other ?

That's an achievement so many cricketers would kill for.

This looks like a side who are somewhat washed up, but we see that happen in so many sports, teams who have achieved so much probably hang around to long, its a shame, but the next world cup next year once they clear out some of the oldies they will be back in the mix.

Oddly enough I am more worried about their 50 over team compared to their t20 and test compatriots.
 

Migara

International Coach
Is this the translation of, 'Shut up and dribble?'
Do you think after being racially discriminated by three empires, for five centuries, we don't worry about racism? We do. But I feel this is excessive by CSA. I some one not supporting a popular idea is cancelled, then I would question the motives of that movement.
 
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ImpatientLime

International Regular
Keep the bloody politics away from the game!

Black lives matter
Muslim lives matter
Jews matter
Kashmiris matter
Basks matter
Sentinels matter
Left handers matter
All lives matter, even that of seals.

WC should be not a place for political movements, good or bad.
the fight for racial equality is not a political movement

if that's how you view it then you are a detached, emotionless human being
 

Migara

International Coach
the fight for racial equality is not a political movement

if that's how you view it then you are a detached, emotionless human being
If the racial equality is obtained via cancel culture, then there is no equality at all. Majority just crushing the minority as usual. That is the exact thing happening here. Unless you are detached, emotionless human being, it is not difficult to notice it either.
 

ImpatientLime

International Regular
If the racial equality is obtained via cancel culture, then there is no equality at all. Majority just crushing the minority as usual. That is the exact thing happening here. Unless you are detached, emotionless human being, it is not difficult to notice it either.
this ain't cancel culture bro. have you thought about what has happened here?

a white player in a post apartheid team withdrew from a game because he refused to participate in an anti racism gesture. this then as a result his black captain was shoved in the spotlight and made to answer questions for de kocks actions?

what do you think his black teammates are thinking tonight about his actions?

100% it's a personal choice but if that's the path you want to go down expect consequences. if you're so strong in your convictions at least have the decency to explain to the millions watching why you don't have the decency to show solidity against racism


De Kock, who has previously declined to take a knee, said in June: "My reason? I'll keep it to myself. It's my own, personal opinion
 

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During the "hour and a half to two hours' trip from Abu Dhabi to Dubai, Quinton made his decision," Bavuma said, adding that the team didn't have time to find out why de Kock had withdrawn.

"I found out as the captain when I got to the changing room. There wasn't a great deal of time for us to thoroughly discuss this matter. Unfortunately, it was a matter of us digesting what we've been told and finding a way to move forward."
That's less than ideal.
 

Niall

International Coach
Lol now I really want to hear know what this "personal reason" is.

Yep no matter your opinion on his political stance he ****ed over his team mates. I suspect their is others in the dressing room who have similarly conservative views but they manned the **** up and handled it more professionally.
 

RossTaylorsBox

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Yep no matter your opinion on his political stance he ****ed over his team mates. I suspect their is others in the dressing room who have similarly conservative views but they manned the **** up and handled it more professionally.
There's a legitimate argument that taking the knee is just performative and does literally nothing to address racism. On the other hand it gets people mad about politics ruining their precious sports so maybe it still has value.
 

Migara

International Coach
this ain't cancel culture bro. have you thought about what has happened here?

a white player in a post apartheid team withdrew from a game because he refused to participate in an anti racism gesture. this then as a result his black captain was shoved in the spotlight and made to answer questions for de kocks actions?

what do you think his black teammates are thinking tonight about his actions?

100% it's a personal choice but if that's the path you want to go down expect consequences. if you're so strong in your convictions at least have the decency to explain to the millions watching why you don't have the decency to show solidity against racism


De Kock, who has previously declined to take a knee, said in June: "My reason? I'll keep it to myself. It's my own, personal opinion
I am, very aware. I am not against a random man asking others to do the BLM salute. But this is CSA, who runs a quota, undermining white players who are good enough to represent their country, coming back and asking it's players to work against racism. It is bit too rich from them.

Just Imagine if Sri Lanka runs a quota system so the majority of the team are from majority religion, and asking their players to show solidarity against religous discrimination? This is a farce of that nature. My thoughts are with Koch who is being cancelled by "non tolerant" organization asking it's members to be "tolerant"
 

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