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*Official* 3rd Test at the Sardar Patel Sports Complex, Ahmedabad, 24 - 28 Feb 2021

Senile Sentry

Senile Sentry

International Debutant
DRS has screwed playing spin royally. Even Indians aren't using their pads often or going down the pitch. Sad to see the skill sets to play spin evaporating at the highest level owing to some insane need to win on SENA pitches.
 
G

Groundking

International Debutant
The reason Axar was a lot more dangerous isn't because he was bowling faster or slower ball causing it to skid on more than Ashwin did, both got them turning and skidding on just as much as each other. The difference is that Axar bowled a much tighter line and targeted the stumps a lot more, there were many more loose balls from Ashwin that the batsmen could get away.
 
Shri

Shri

Mr. Glass
on a long enough time frame, maybe batters will have to redefine techniques when playing spin

lara and sehwag didn't use their pads to play spin

no one attacks spinners anymore and that is what makes turning tracks boring these days
 
K

Kilowatt

School Boy/Girl Captain
mellers said:
What produced this result was the dire pitch.
If this is the sort of cricket that the Indian population wants to see from Test matches then the days of Test cricket are over. All that is left is T20.
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India did manage to score 49 runs in 7 overs on the same dire pitch so maybe you're onto something with that T20 bit.
 
Spark

Spark

Global Moderator
Shri said:
on a long enough time frame, maybe batters will have to redefine techniques when playing spin

lara and sehwag didn't use their pads to play spin

no one attacks spinners anymore and that is what makes turning tracks boring these days
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Genuinely wonder how peak Clarke and peak (i.e. 2017) Smith would have fared on the last two pitches, probably the last two significant exponents of the run-down-the-deck approach to playing spin from non-subcontinent nations.
 
Shri

Shri

Mr. Glass
Spark said:
I believe the averages are nearly identical, with Ashwin marginally higher, but Ashwin tried a lot more in terms of varying his pace and flight, whereas Axar genuinely just tried to bowl exactly the same ball in exactly the same spot over and over again and let the pitch do all sorts of random things with it.
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h4xar really is budget jaddu :laugh:
 
Shri

Shri

Mr. Glass
Spark said:
Genuinely wonder how peak Clarke and peak (i.e. 2017) Smith would have fared on the last two pitches, probably the last two significant exponents of the run-down-the-deck approach to playing spin from non-subcontinent nations.
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clarke would have rotated the strike and played a few beautiful cover drives dancing down the track all along the ground for four

smith would have tonned up while pant laughed at everything that he did from behind the stumps
 
A

Arachnodouche

International Captain
To take just two dismissals: Crawley and Bairstow, two top-order batsmen that were bowled within the first three deliveries of the second innings to balls that did nothing untoward. Who gets the blame for that? Is it the pitch? Is it Crawley, who batted like a dream y'day but apparently was so frightened by what he saw from the other end and the horror stories shared by other Eng batsmen in the dressing room that he ended up playing down the wrong line? Or Bairstow, who's just all-around **** these days and hadn't spent enough time in the middle to know which side was up or down?
 
Spark

Spark

Global Moderator
Shri said:
clarke would have rotated the strike and played a few beautiful cover drives dancing down the track all along the ground for four

smith would have tonned up while pant laughed at everything that he did from behind the stumps
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I think Clarke was a little past his peak by then and had problems with his captaincy which were starting to affect his batting but he had issues with Jadeja iirc. Got stumped second ball to him at some point.
 
Shri

Shri

Mr. Glass
Spark said:
I think Clarke was a little past his peak by then and had problems with his captaincy which were starting to affect his batting but he had issues with Jadeja iirc. Got stumped second ball to him at some point.
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i thought you meant clarke at his peak too

 
Senile Sentry

Senile Sentry

International Debutant
Shri said:
on a long enough time frame, maybe batters will have to redefine techniques when playing spin

lara and sehwag didn't use their pads to play spin

no one attacks spinners anymore and that is what makes turning tracks boring these days
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Both of them were excellent in using his feet to cart the spinners around. Not to mention quicksilver hand eye coordination.

IPL is another reason for affecting the spin techniques. There is no incentive on playing with soft hands or on defence.

IPL has improved playing bounce because that's the general go to mantra for bowlers. Hence most of the batsmen are absolute dummies vs swing and spin on favorable pitches or conditions.

If Pakistan been touring India on these pitches they would be demolishing India by a large margin.
 
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