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*Official* West Indies in Bangladesh 2021

Tom Flint

International Regular
Congratulations windies on a great series win.
Cornwall bonner mayers da silva are all certainties for the next series, blackwood is now cemented along with Gabriel and roach. Braithwaite back in good touch. Holder to return which only leaves 2 spots up for grabs. If mayers can be the 4th seamer then you can select 2 batsman. One to open and the other in the middle order
 

Starfighter

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Bangladesh should be seriously embarrassed. Even without their talisman player for all but a small part they should have had both the batting and the bowling to beat a side full of players most people have never heard of. Not being able to out bowl the West Indies spin bowlers in home conditions is a serious black mark and the batting remains very flaky, but the biggest issue is the mental fortitude, where they've failed to seize the moment when it was desperately needed, especially in the first test.
 

M0rphin3

International Debutant
Why is this WI side talked as the second string side? Coz barring Holder, thought the side was pretty solid (albeit inexperienced)? ODI side was weak though, granted. Really solid looking side now once Holder comes back.

Anyhoo solid WIN. Bangladesh was shockingly mediocre, and saw this coming tbh. No one really chipped in with big scores that was required and honestly, this three spin strategy is utter shite from them. Dropping fizz was really baffling. Shakib's absence did hurt, but really do deserve to lose with spuds like Mithun playing and Mossadek being not even in the squad.
 

Beamer

International Vice-Captain
Da Silva is such a good find for the Windies. Great technique with both bat and the gloves
Yep he was the glue that held everything together IMHO. So happy he's being given the chance he deserves.

Very happy with the win but that was closer than it should have been. We need to learn how to soak up pressure in the 3rd innings, it nearly cost us here. Really looking forward to seeing how these young batsmen develop.

Bangladesh would have won the first test with a fit Shakib and possibly the second too. However, they need to take a step back and think of a pathway to competing in tests in future. All these spinners equal anti-cricket IMHO, they need to develop some balance. Tbh I thought that was Domingo's job but he appears to have given in to temptation.
 

Beamer

International Vice-Captain
Why is this WI side talked as the second string side? Coz barring Holder, thought the side was pretty solid (albeit inexperienced)? ODI side was weak though, granted. Really solid looking side now once Holder comes back.

Anyhoo solid WIN. Bangladesh was shockingly mediocre, and saw this coming tbh. No one really chipped in with big scores that was required and honestly, this three spin strategy is utter ****e from them. Dropping fizz was really baffling. Shakib's absence did hurt, but really do deserve to lose with spuds like Mithun playing and Mossadek being not even in the squad.
I agree with you, this was inexperienced but it was basically guys who have scored lots of domestic runs over the last 2 years replacing guys who were failing constantly, so if anything we were strengthened, other than Holder.
 

M0rphin3

International Debutant
I really liked the look of Da Silva when he daybood. Look quite solid to me. Happy that he's carried on tbh.

And ironic that when they have two half good seamers in Jayed and Fizz, they end up doing this, while they used to regularly play two of Rubel/Shafiul/Abul or such before lmao
 

Beamer

International Vice-Captain
I really liked the look of Da Silva when he daybood. Look quite solid to me. Happy that he's carried on tbh.

And ironic that when they have two half good seamers in Jayed and Fizz, they end up doing this, while they used to regularly play two of Rubel/Shafiul/Abul or such before lmao
Fizz and Jayed will make an effective opening pair in New Zealand, where accuracy and each way movement is more important with the new ball than pace.

The problem will be when the ball gets old and there's absolutely no spin and noone with any pace to do something different. It won't be at all pretty.

Also, this might be controversial, but I don't think Bangladesh's spinners are good enough to justify this approach. Nayeem and Tajiul are solid workhorses but were outbowled by our spinners here. Mehidy is a star and Shakib is Shakib, but otherwise I would not be playing Tajiul and Nayeem over and over.
 

cnerd123

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I don't think adding an extra quick would have necessarily made BD's bowling more potent. It would be an insignificant amount if it did. But it did show a lack of foresight could really mess with the fast bowlers' self belief and development.

I don't think the pitches are even that bad for fast bowling tbh. As discussed, quick guys have generally done okay here. All of BD's quicks this series looked pretty good in passages of play. They'll only get better the more they play, and in the long term you're going to have a more diverse and potent attack.

Definitely agree that Taijul and Nayeem do not justify fielding 3 spinners.
 

Beamer

International Vice-Captain
I don't think adding an extra quick would have necessarily made BD's bowling more potent. It would be an insignificant amount if it did. But it did show a lack of foresight could really mess with the fast bowlers' self belief and development.

I don't think the pitches are even that bad for fast bowling tbh. As discussed, quick guys have generally done okay here. All of BD's quicks this series looked pretty good in passages of play. They'll only get better the more they play, and in the long term you're going to have a more diverse and potent attack.
Particularly Jayed, who more than held his own and got useful breakthroughs. Even Soumya got Kraigg out at a key time in the first innings.

I think pacers are important, particularly in the first innings. These pitches didn't exactly rag it, they just kept a bit low and slow and then turned on the final two days.
 

Tom Flint

International Regular
Yep he was the glue that held everything together IMHO. So happy he's being given the chance he deserves.

Very happy with the win but that was closer than it should have been. We need to learn how to soak up pressure in the 3rd innings, it nearly cost us here. Really looking forward to seeing how these young batsmen develop.

Bangladesh would have won the first test with a fit Shakib and possibly the second too. However, they need to take a step back and think of a pathway to competing in tests in future. All these spinners equal anti-cricket IMHO, they need to develop some balance. Tbh I thought that was Domingo's job but he appears to have given in to temptation.
You can't say for sure shakib wins them the 1st test. I'd say more this one with his batting though maybe
 

M0rphin3

International Debutant
You can't say for sure shakib wins them the 1st test. I'd say more this one with his batting though maybe
Nah I think Shakib would have made it seriously difficult. He would've held up one end pretty tight at the very least IMO. Spinners bowled way too much trash.

And awta @Beamer re the spinners being not that great too. Mehidy and ideally Taijul should be it, even when Shakib is absent.
 

Slifer

International Captain
Wi team with 'regulars' available:

Braithwaite
????
????
Mayers
Bonner
Blackwood (for now)
Da Silva+
Holder*
Rahkeem
Roach
Gabriel
 

Tom Flint

International Regular
Shakib obviously would have given bangla a better chance of winning yes but his bowling is being overhyped here a bit. His average in Bangladesh is 31, yes he is economical and tests batsman patience but bonner and mayers were both patient both days and never looked like taking risks anyway.
Shakib may have taken their wickets but from how they played there is just as good a chance he wouldnt
 

Beamer

International Vice-Captain
Shakib obviously would have given bangla a better chance of winning yes but his bowling is being overhyped here a bit. His average in Bangladesh is 31, yes he is economical and tests batsman patience but bonner and mayers were both patient both days and never looked like taking risks anyway.
Shakib may have taken their wickets but from how they played there is just as good a chance he wouldnt
My thinking is he may have played a quick cameo with the bat that took it beyond us. Still, you never know, it's just my gut feeling.
 

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