4th Test at the Gabba, Brisbane, 15 - 19 Jan 2021

[Senile Sentry]

Hammer the ****, Spark.

Won't do any good though, given the intellectual disadvantage the bloke operates at, but hammer him anyway. It's cathartic. I've long wanted the mods to understand the worth of giving some brain dead pillock on here a bollocking, and now you're getting it.

Good, good. Yessssss

You are obsessed with me.

 

[Spark]

If they have not honored their part of the Agreement, why insist on then staging it at Brisbane then?

Because they had an agreement beforehand, and wanted to keep to their word? There are significant logistical headaches to moving a Test at the last minute, especially when most places had some sort of border restrictions in place with Sydney -- including Canberra, which is personally where I would have moved the Test when it was clear that QLD was going to play hardball.

 

[Senile Sentry]

imo they can clean their own ****ing room.

On the other hand, I do think having access to things like the gym is important. Even if it means only the teams are allowed to use it (same with the pool) and no one else. Conditioning is so important for prevention of injuries.

I do not agree with cutting down minimum hospitality. But this is the overall point.

The bare minimum CA could have done is send an inspection team beforehand to hr hotel and ensuring these facilities are indeed available for players, as agreed beforehand.

But apparently they cbf.

 

[Burgey]

You are obsessed with me.

You aren't important enough to be obsessed over. And you're rarely here anyway.

It's just good to see the value in hammering a dribbler being acknowledged by the higher ups.

 

[Spikey]

So when they landed in Brisbane and it was clear that hotel didn't get the memo that looser rules applied...what was CA supposed to do? Axe the test? Moving it isn't really an option because they're now there....

 

[Senile Sentry]

Because they had an agreement beforehand, and wanted to keep to their word? There are significant logistical headaches to moving a Test at the last minute, especially when most places had some sort of border restrictions in place with Sydney -- including Canberra, which is personally where I would have moved the Test when it was clear that QLD was going to play hardball.

Fair enough. I understand this part. What I am irked is CA didn't follow through like an inspection of the facilities beforehand, prior to moving the teams to Brisbane.

 

[Senile Sentry]

So when they landed in Brisbane and it was clear that hotel didn't get the memo that looser rules applied...what was CA supposed to do? Axe the test? Moving it isn't really an option because they're now there....

In these circumstances, the least they can do is check whether the hotels got this memo and have made necessary arrangements.

 

[Senile Sentry]

You aren't important enough to be obsessed over. And you're rarely here anyway.

It's just good to see the value in hammering a dribbler being acknowledged by the higher ups.

Yet over three quarters of your posts are indirectly or directly at me or about me.

This is what obsession is about, you are stalking me old man? Eeeew.

 

[Spark]

Fair enough. I understand this part. What I am irked is CA didn't follow through like an inspection of the facilities beforehand, prior to moving the teams to Brisbane.

What would that have found? I have no doubt the hotel is absolutely fine... when there are hospitality staff and pool access and gym access open. That only changed when the Indian team arrived.

 

[Senile Sentry]

@Stark, I respectfully stand down from this discussion, as I believe have made all my points. G day mate.

 

[honestbharani]

imo they can clean their own ****ing room.

I understand it is an easy thing to preach but honestly, if you have to play 7 hours of intense international sport followed up by whatever hours of training, warm up and cool downs that are mandated, I dont think it would be fair to expect the athletes to cook their own food and wash their clothes and dry them etc. Feel its a bit much to be asked of either side tbh.

And @Senile Sentry , the thing about the IPL and UAE was that the conditions did not change as it was going on, which has happened here. CA have been excellent, there is no reason to blame them for the Queensland Government being stubborn.

 

[honestbharani]

@Stark, I respectfully stand down from this discussion, as I believe have made all my points. G day mate.

I am sure @Spark is flattered.

 

[Senile Sentry]

I understand it is an easy thing to preach but honestly, if you have to play 7 hours of intense international sport followed up by whatever hours of training, warm up and cool downs that are mandated, I dont think it would be fair to expect the athletes to cook their own food and wash their clothes and dry them etc. Feel its a bit much to be asked of either side tbh.

And @Senile Sentry , the thing about the IPL and UAE was that the conditions did not change as it was going on, which has happened here. CA have been excellent, there is no reason to blame them for the Queensland Government being stubborn.

Everything was changing almost daily in UAE,

Where BCCI prevailed was that they conducted and agreed the rules applicable to players at the highest ministry level of each emirate.

 

[harsh.ag]

The influence money and networks can buy in important circles in UAE is just not comparable to any non functioning democratic theatre like Australia tbh

 

[Senile Sentry]

The influence money and networks can buy in important circles in UAE is just not comparable to any non functioning democratic theatre like Australia tbh

Haha. True.

But influence works everywhere. More so in non functioning democracies.

 

[gabbadan]

The board has been told that the team has been given access to all the lifts in the hotel. They can use a gym too. It has been assured that there will be room service and house keeping. The team has also been given a team room where they can assemble and have meetings. Only the swimming pool is not open for use,” a senior BCCI official told The Times of India.

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I know this Hotel gold faucets and all.

 

[sunilz]

CA has organised this tour pretty well. It is State's govt fault mostly.

The only problem I have is that there was no need of 4 different Test venues in the middle of pandemic. They could have chosen 2 venues for test and played 2 tests per venue.

For eg. If Eng tour to Ind goes ahead, we have restricted entire tour (ODI+Test+T20) to 3 venues

 

[cnerd123]

It seems you have no idea about what happened in IPL or about UAE.

UAE is made up of seven emirates, each of them ruled by sheikhs and has their own rules and regulations. Abu Dhabi has the most stringent restrictions and had severe border entry restrictions for people coming from other Emirates, including quarantine and what not.

The whole region was reporting cases around 1000-2000 cases per day and was under partial curfew.

Amidst all this, BCCI managed to get members and staff of eight different teams, conduct simultaneous matches at.different "states" and ensured that the tournament, which spanned months, went off without a glitch. That's inspite of all these challenges and not without it. But like true professional board, they di their homework well in advance and secured necessary agreements with the different actors involved and then executed them perfectly.

I have to chime in here because you are missing some context

1) The UAE relies heavily on income from hosting events, and have gone way out of their way to make it possible for events such as the UFC, IPL, business fairs, festivals, etc to go ahead. This is a credit to them, not the BCCI.

2) The UAE has decided that around 2000 cases a day is acceptable and have not had any form of lockdown on their own population for many months now, including during the IPL. The individuals associated with the IPL did live under more stringent conditions than anyone else in the country.

3) The Franchises were responsible for managing their players, staff, etc. and the penalty for anyone who violated the bio security bubble was that they would be sent home and the franchise would be hit with a heavy fine. It was not the BCCI coordinating all that, at most they just managed the needs of the match officials and event staff.

4) Due to the size of the bubble and the fact that UAE is renowned for its slave labour hospitality, there was very little need for anyone to enter or leave the bubble during the event. All hotel and service staff were part of the bubble too IIRC, so it was literally a sort of 5-start bubble environment created by the UAE government in order to facilitate the IPL

5) There were no spectators at the IPL, but there are spectators here. Allowing people into the ground brings with it a whole other set of complications that the UAE govt and BCCI did not have to deal with.

 

[vicleggie]

No housekeeping? What a ****ing joke

Have these Queenslanders not heard of masks and gloves?

 

[Spark]

CA has organised this tour pretty well. It is State's govt fault mostly.

The only problem I have is that there was no need of 4 different Test venues in the middle of pandemic. They could have chosen 2 venues for test and played 2 tests per venue.

For eg. If Eng tour to Ind goes ahead, we have restricted entire tour (ODI+Test+T20) to 3 venues

In hindsight that was probably a better idea. But when the time the tour would have been arranged, hope would have been quite high that a fairly normal tour could proceed as the Victorian lockdown was ending, there were no outbreaks anywhere in the country etc. The timing of the Avalon outbreak was just horrible and made a real mess of things, literally all of this headache right up to the doubt over the Sydney test match is down to the difficulty associated with the newly imposed hard NSW-QLD border.