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4th Test at the Gabba, Brisbane, 15 - 19 Jan 2021

Salamuddin

International Debutant
Would be appropriate for him to dayboo in Australia’s chennai then
You and the missus must miss
Sundar being picked isn't pretending he's in the best XI available - if Ashwin's out, it's purely a hedge against one of the quicks getting injured or Kuldeep going the distance. Like, if India spend 120+ overs in the field and Kuldeep's getting hammered or Saini's hamstring goes, it's pushing a lot of overs through Siraj in back-to-back Tests. And Rohit's about the only one in the top six that's ever bowled. And he's terrible.

He's probably liable to make about as many runs as Saha at 7 (i.e. not many), so really comes down to whether you think whether the step up in glovework outweighs extra bowling, or vice versa.

At the risk of buying back into the Ashwin #canbat meme because of one 30-odd in the face of years of underperformance, maybe he bats 7 if he's fit.
well India could play both Saha and sundar in the 11.

gill
Rohit
Puj
Rahane
Pant
Saha
Sundar
Ashwin/kuldeep
Thakur
Saini
Siraj

Saha probably likely to make as many runs as Shaw or Mayank at 6 ie probably not much.
 

stephen

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You reckon? Don't know if it would have made much difference, they would have just declared with 100 less runs in the secon dinnings and still given India the same target and time to bat.
India would have been in the field longer first innings and would be facing bigger psychological battles right from the beginning. The Australian batsmen would have had more licence in the second innings which would have been more demoralizing for India.

Scoreboard pressure is a real thing in the first innings.
 

Senile Sentry

International Debutant
Pity India have no idea how to keep cricketers healthy. Now all their injured players is just an excuse why they lose at the Gabba
Learn to play bounce ffs. It’s like the 70s all over again. Thank Christ there hasn’t been a test in perth. It would have been seven a side
Only wish Aus bowlers spent half that effort into taking wickets and you guys won't be whining like this here.
 

stephen

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Only wish Aus bowlers spent half that effort into taking wickets and you guys won't be whining like this here.
It's not like your blokes did much better in the second dig with the ball.

It was an epic save but at no point were India actually on top. When a test is a draw with less than 30 wickets taken to non- run outs you can safely say the pitch was a road. Interestingly there was more variable bounce on day 3 than day 5 as well. The pitch just got flatter and flatter as the match went on.

Doesn't mean your blokes didn't bat well, of course they did to survive 4 sessions. But Australia's bowling wasn't really the problem, except for a short period after tea where they bowled too short. Any other day and they'd have cleaned up those wickets with an hour to go.
 

stephen

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I mean Lyon and Starc looked really non-threatening basically all day. Flat pitch yes, but regardless, that's kind of a problem and certainly part of the "bowling"
Still, lesser bowlers have run through sides on day 5 SCG pitches.

And fourth innings at the SCG has favoured quicks over spinners for a long time. By the 4th innings the rough had usually flattened out and the variable bounce brings quicks more into the game.

But there really was no variable bounce on day 5.
 

OverratedSanity

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Was a flat deck no doubt, but the Aussie bowlers (Starc and Lyon mainly) simply bowled piss poor for too long. Starc's spell of harmless leg side bouncers was dreadful, and you saw in the final 10 overs or so how much better he started bowling when he pitched it up from round the wicket. Difficult pitch to bowl a team out on, sure, but they still should've managed it.
 

Spark

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Was a flat deck no doubt, but the Aussie bowlers (Starc and Lyon mainly) simply bowled piss poor for too long. Starc's spell of harmless leg side bouncers was dreadful, and you saw in the final 10 overs or so how much better he started bowling when he started pitching it up from round the wicket. Difficult pitch to bowl a team out on, sure, but they still should've managed it.
And, you know, if they'd held their catches. They would have been a real shout even if Paine had held that last one; that Indian tail plus a one-handed Jadeja would have been no guarantee at all to survive four or five overs of Starc bowling like that, especially once nerves come into play.
 

Spark

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Watching a stream on Ashwin's youtube channel and he confirmed that story of a teenage Kohli on on A tour to Australia walking up to a teenage Alyssa Healy and saying "Hi this is Virat the next big thing in Indian cricket" :laugh:
this has to go in the thread
 

Daemon

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I didn’t watch Day 5 but there seemed to be a few lifters bowled by Haze to Ashwin and then one that seemed to get stuck in the pitch that he masterfully chipped over Haze just past the bowling crease
 

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