Flem274*
123/5
cdg and mitchell are far better players. if we must play a spinner at home then the selectors need to show some backbone and choose which pacer misses out.
also kuggs is no test #7
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*Official* Pakistan in New Zealand 2020/21
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also kuggs is no test #7
hendrix
Hall of Fame Member
CdG Yes, Mitchell not sure.
No, we should basically never drop Jamieson or Wagner for a spinner at home, no matter how dry it looks. That is insanity.
Flem274*
123/5
for the role they're effectively playing (batsman who bowls a few overs per day) mitchell is a lot better than santa. no comparison on the batting. mitchell actually has top order experience and can play the short ball for one.
im actually coming round to kippaxs high iq mcconchie if they must have a batsman who can bowl competent fc spin. ive watched him bat a bit now and he's far from the worst i've seen.
hendrix
Hall of Fame Member
Flem274*
123/5
the game meanders when he bowls and he's not a test #7. on turners the selectors need to toughen up and drop the lowest performer of the quartet for a test. he's the pink teams nathan mccullum, who rightly never played tests.
The Hutt Rec
International Vice-Captain
I have to disagree he was fine, for the majority of his overs he maybe bowled two in the right spot, the other four were either easily left, easily milked for one, or just absolute freebies for four. He’s got to be a lot more consistent with his line and length to succeed in test cricket.
He should at a minimum be able to create pressure at his end.
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Drop Boult. Jamieson can take the new ball.
Flem274*
123/5
did santner? apart from a couple of bunnies that is.
he's indefensible as a test bowler. im sorry i hate to rag on him but he's a white ball bowler and that's it for now.
He had a hip injury but think he's OK now. That ball was doing all sorts once it went past the bat yesterday. Henry especially
Starfighter
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Do we actually need to have the discuccion over Santner's ability with the red ball? I'd have thought the answer was pretty obvious by now.
Kippax
Cricketer Of The Year
I've never put forward McConchie ftr.
hendrix
Hall of Fame Member
If your argument is that he's not a test standard spinner then I agree - but he's not playing as a test spinner he's playing as a useful allrounder. Mitchell is not playing as a frontline seamer he's playing as an all rounder.
Also, I'm not sure what standard to hold him to here. Yasir Shah was also milked easily in that match and he walks into our team as frontline spinner.
nzfan
International Vice-Captain
So far so good from our boys but the challenge is when the ball is like 10 overs plus old. With the new ball it's not predictable swing with shine still on both sides. Once one side of the ball gets a bit scuffed up the bowlers can control the ball way more.
Sometimes it helps to rather leave than score too many and scuff up the ball too much too early.
This is where you need gun swing bowler as a first or second change bowler.
Sometimes it helps to rather leave than score too many and scuff up the ball too much too early.
This is where you need gun swing bowler as a first or second change bowler.
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Flem274*
123/5
yea but i've adapted your high iq nickname for him