***Official*** India's Tour of Australia 2020/21 - General discussion

[stephen]

He's saying the bowling failed at Sydney and Melbourne before the batting, so it's hard to blame the bowling failure on the batting failure.

A big issue with the flat deck on day two was that India was still batting on it. Two wickets and four wickets on day one was a disgraceful performance.

Full credit to Pujara who batted masterfully. Poor effort by the groundsmen who gave nothing at all to the bowlers. Those decks were utterly lifeless from day 1.

Paine did show his lack of experience in his captaincy. He never seemed to have a plan B for when plan A (bowl Cummins into the dirt) failed.

I also think that Cummins should have taken the new ball over Starc. He's been lethal any time he's been given the chance.

I do agree that Hazlewood bowled worse in that series than I think he's bowled at any other time. He was straying into the hip regularly in his efforts to bowl too fast.

 

[the big bambino]

Poor effort by the groundsmen who gave nothing at all to the bowlers. Those decks were utterly lifeless from day 1.

Why its almost as if pitch conditions are relevant when discussing the relative merit of batting performances - despite the fact Starc can bowl 150ks.

 

[stephen]

Why its almost as if pitch conditions are relevant when discussing the relative merit of batting performances - despite the fact Starc can bowl 150ks.

Yeah there really was zero excuse for the batting in Sydney and Melbourne.

 

[Nintendo]

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/aus...2020-11-25?mode=amp&__twitter_impression=true.

Don't know what the selection headache with the odi side is about, pick

1.Warner
2.Finch
3.Smith
4.Marnus
5.Green
6.Carey
7.Maxwell
8.Starc 1
9.Cummins
10.Zampa
11.Haze 2

Green is supposedly bowling fine in the nets and he's most likely going to either be our pack up for marsh or main seam bowling allrounder at the 2023 WC. Stoinis is a proven failure in odi's and didn't show any signs of being better vs England when he replaced smith, and more importantly he and henriques will be mid 30's at the next wc.

The talk of replacing marnus with another seam bowling allrounder is even more ridiculous. Our main 4+Maxwell, whichever seam bowling allrounder they pick and marnus are enough to get 50 overs a game. We've spent year's trying to find a new #4 in ODI's, talking about replacing him is borderline heretical.

 

[Shri]

why would you interrupt maxi's vacation with silly stuff like playing for australia

 

[aussie tragic]

ODI Locks: Warner, Finch, Smith, Maxwell, Carey, Starc, Cummins, Zampa, Hazlewood.

Word is they'll just move Smith in for the injured Marsh, so Labuschagne and Stoinis keep their spots. The problem with that is in the 3 ODI's against Eng, Marsh bowled 19 of the 30 overs required by the 5th bowler (Maxwell bowled 7, Stoinis only 4 and Labu didn't bowl).

This means to me they have to play Henriques (too early for Green), however he bowls very little these days as well (or follow the T20 strategy of Agar at 7)

 

[Nintendo]

why would you interrupt maxi's vacation with silly stuff like playing for australia

Ipl ended a few weeks ago his vacationing over for now unfortunately

 

[Burgey]

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/aus...2020-11-25?mode=amp&__twitter_impression=true.

Don't know what the selection headache with the odi side is about, pick

1.Warner
2.Finch
3.Smith
4.Marnus
5.Green
6.Carey
7.Maxwell
8.Starc 1
9.Cummins
10.Zampa
11.Haze 2

Green is supposedly bowling fine in the nets and he's most likely going to either be our pack up for marsh or main seam bowling allrounder at the 2023 WC. Stoinis is a proven failure in odi's and didn't show any signs of being better vs England when he replaced smith, and more importantly he and henriques will be mid 30's at the next wc.

The talk of replacing marnus with another seam bowling allrounder is even more ridiculous. Our main 4+Maxwell, whichever seam bowling allrounder they pick and marnus are enough to get 50 overs a game. We've spent year's trying to find a new #4 in ODI's, talking about replacing him is borderline heretical.

I think that's the side I'd run with too, though I'd probably bat Carey ahead of Green, unless it gets to like 3/160 or something good then I'd throw Maxwell in there and just unleash hell. Green and Maxwell can get through ten between them imo, particularly at Sydney which ought to be decent enough to bowl spin on.

 

[Crazy Sam]

It is nice to see the Aus elite umpires finally getting to umpire a few ODIs and tests at home.

 

[aussie tragic]

Kohli needs 133 runs to be the 6th player to pass 12,000 ODI runs...

....will be nice seeing him go home without achieving that milestone

 

[gabbadan]

Will they go with Cameron Green ODI 1? Hope so.

Trying to recall excuses given for Australia's poor bowling last time but they were a big topic.
Wasn't disharmony mentioned?
In any case they sure are without excuses this time around.

 

[Nintendo]

Will they go with Cameron Green ODI 1? Hope so.

Trying to recall excuses given for Australia's poor bowling last time but they were a big topic.
Wasn't disharmony mentioned?
In any case they sure are without excuses this time around.

Fairly certain we will see stoinis over green today, hey'll make 25(35) or something to that effect, end up with bowling figures of 5-0-35-0/1 and play all 3 odi's because he has huge biceps.

 

[Prince EWS]

Fairly certain we will see stoinis over green today, hey'll make 25(35) or something to that effect, end up with bowling figures of 5-0-35-0/1 and play all 3 odi's because he has huge biceps.

Haven't you heard? He's five times better this season!

Stoinis 'five times better than a year ago': Ponting

Ricky Ponting has spent a lot of time with Marcus Stoinis in the past few years but even he was shocked at how quickly the allrounder had improved when they reunited at this year's IPL

www.cricket.com.au

 

[Nintendo]

Haven't you heard? He's five times better this season!

Stoinis 'five times better than a year ago': Ponting

Ricky Ponting has spent a lot of time with Marcus Stoinis in the past few years but even he was shocked at how quickly the allrounder had improved when they reunited at this year's IPL

www.cricket.com.au

5 times zero is still zero?

 

[NotMcKenzie]

Looking forward to him averaging 160 in this summer's one-dayers

 

[Starfighter]

Looking forward to him averaging 160 in this summer's one-dayers

Bat or ball?

 

[NotMcKenzie]

I ought to have been clearer...



... particularly when his other average being 9 will not help clarify things either

 

[Starfighter]

9 bat and 160 ball seems about right though.

 

[Shady Slim]

Fairly certain we will see stoinis over green today, hey'll make 25(35) or something to that effect, end up with bowling figures of 5-0-35-0/1 and play all 3 odi's because he has huge biceps.

you say this however green is also a BIG UNIT with LONG LEVERS so he could finally be the nexus of merit-based and rig-based selection if we're lucky

 

[Burgey]

Backing Punter in here. He wouldn't bang on about him unless he'd seen something, and he knows the game six ways to Sunday. I bet Stoinis has improved a ton.

He'll still be cod ordinary though.