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The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

mr_mister

mr_mister

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So 13 is 44.8% of 29, Bradman's total test centuries.

44.8% of Bradman's 117 FC centuries would be 52.

I know that's very, very shoddy maths but Bradman was reasonably consistent with his scoring throughout his career, he didn't have many peaks or troughs. So I wouldn't be suprised if the amount of tons he had before turning 25 was within 5 centuries of 52. Which would mean he's neck a neck with Hick!

I know Hick actually had 57 FC tons when he made his test debut in June '91, according to his cricinfo profile and wiki.

And he'd just turned 25 years old two weeks earlier in May. So it's possible he actually reached his 50th ton as a 23 year old, depending on how many FC tons he got between May 1990 and his test debut in June 1991.

I'd wager a decent amount he brought up at that 50th FC century at a younger age than Bradman. By a whisker I reckon


Anyway to find the proper info regarding this?
 
Gob

Gob

International Coach
Pothas said:
If we are just doing played for the county at some point then Hampshire:

Gordon Greenidge
Barry Richards
Hashim Amla
David Gower
Kevin Pietersen
Michael Clarke
Nic Pothas
Wasim Akram
Malcolm Marshall
Shane Warne
Dale Steyn

The keeper is the big name there obviously.

Love that the opening partnership was actually a real life one.

I do remember watching Wasim play for Hampshire but it was a few games right at the end of career, Steyn and Amla only played a handful as well, I actually had to check the latter because I thought I might have imagined it. A real Hampshire team would have Robin Smith, Andy Roberts, Phil Mead and a fair few others. Still not even any of them are actually from the country.
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That bowling attack..my word
 
Prince EWS

Prince EWS

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Pothas said:
If we are just doing played for the county at some point then Hampshire:

Gordon Greenidge
Barry Richards
Hashim Amla
David Gower
Kevin Pietersen
Michael Clarke
Nic Pothas
Wasim Akram
Malcolm Marshall
Shane Warne
Dale Steyn

The keeper is the big name there obviously.

Love that the opening partnership was actually a real life one.

I do remember watching Wasim play for Hampshire but it was a few games right at the end of career, Steyn and Amla only played a handful as well, I actually had to check the latter because I thought I might have imagined it. A real Hampshire team would have Robin Smith, Andy Roberts, Phil Mead and a fair few others. Still not even any of them are actually from the county.
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Yeah this one is pretty crazy, especially since it's not immediately obvious like the NSW one where the players were all from there and played for the same country.
 
trundler

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Tried making an all time Yorkshire XI but picking between Verity, Rhodes, Peate and Wardle is far too difficult. As is the inevitable decision of having to leave out Sir Geoffrey for Sir Len and his idol Sutcliffe. One imagines Trueman and Hirst walk in and the middle order would have to have Root, Leyland and Stanley Jackson.
 
A

AndrewB

International Vice-Captain
He was still playing for Victoria after the war - he moved to NSW in 1947.

Apparently he played at least once for Notts in 1959; so they could claim an all-time bowling attack including Larwood, Hadlee and Miller.
 
A

AndrewB

International Vice-Captain
mr_mister said:
So 13 is 44.8% of 29, Bradman's total test centuries.

44.8% of Bradman's 117 FC centuries would be 52.

I know that's very, very shoddy maths but Bradman was reasonably consistent with his scoring throughout his career, he didn't have many peaks or troughs. So I wouldn't be suprised if the amount of tons he had before turning 25 was within 5 centuries of 52. Which would mean he's neck a neck with Hick!

I know Hick actually had 57 FC tons when he made his test debut in June '91, according to his cricinfo profile and wiki.

And he'd just turned 25 years old two weeks earlier in May. So it's possible he actually reached his 50th ton as a 23 year old, depending on how many FC tons he got between May 1990 and his test debut in June 1991.

I'd wager a decent amount he brought up at that 50th FC century at a younger age than Bradman. By a whisker I reckon


Anyway to find the proper info regarding this?
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Luckily I have the relevant copy of Wisden (1991):

"Hick... became at 24 the youngest batsman to score 50 first-class hundreds, that record having previously been held by Sir Donald Bradman, when 26." (Glamorgan v Worcs, July 21-24). He completed the hundred on the 24th (his 252 in the first innings being his 49th hundred).

Hammond I think still holds the record for youngest to score 100 first-class hundreds, being a few weeks younger than Hick when they did so.
 
Coronis

Coronis

International Coach
Teams that debuted before Bradman vs Teams that debuted after Bradman

(AUS, ENG, SA, WI)
Hobbs
Sutcliffe
Bradman*
Chappell
Kallis
Sobers
Gilchrist+
Marshall
Warne
Steyn
McGrath

(NZ, IND, PAK, SL, ZIM, BAN, IRE, AFG)
Gavaskar
Sehwag
Sangakkara
Tendulkar
Miandad
Flower+
Imran*
Hadlee
Wasim
Waqar
Muralitharan

Maybe too many bowlers in the 2nd side? Maybe Shakib instead of Waqar?
 
trundler

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Plus Kallis at 5 seems overkill with Sobers there. Would rather have an aggressive stroke maker like Weekes or Lara at #5.
 
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